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Offline jfbrooks9301

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Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« on: October 05, 2014, 03:42:15 PM »
I did not think that I would be the first person trying this out, but based on a quick look at the forums, apparently I am.

I have not been able to even install the avast free suite on the windows 10 Tech Preview (64bit).

I have tried both the installer from here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=151290.0
and the one from here: http://dwnload.org/gus/download/avast-free-edition.php
and the one from here: http://download.cnet.com/Avast-Free-Antivirus/3000-2239_4-10019223.html?part=dl-85737&subj=dl&tag=button

I have tried running the installer in windows 8 compatibility mode, with no success. It always crashes with the error: "The installer is unable to initialize early avast! self-defense with error 0x00000005! Aborting!"

I realize that none of these say windows 10. Avast might have gotten the Tech Preview the same day I did, and are working on it. I'm not really surprised, but I thought I would bring it up. Maybe better heads than me have already found a work-around until Avast does support Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2014, 04:12:45 PM »
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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2014, 02:17:20 PM »
Why would you think you could install a 3rd party antivirus package on a prototype pre-release operating system that's been available for just a few days?

You do know that antivirus software has to have intimate knowledge of the OS internals to work properly, right?  Who, outside of Microsoft, could have that knowledge yet?

Win 10 comes with Microsoft's "defender" antivirus package, so you're not unprotected.  Use that for now.

At this point you should consider a Windows 10 installation a complete throwaway.  I suggest testing it in a virtual machine.

If you want to protect yourself further from the possibility of infection, you could consider taking these measures on your Win 10 system:

  • Install the HOSTS file from here:   http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
     It will keep you utterly away from most parasite web sites that will attempt to load malware, and as a bonus most ads will never get into your computer as well.
     
  • Go through your Internet Zone security options one by one, reconfigure IE to not allow ActiveX to run from the Internet Zone; be ruthless - don't allow anything except basic scripting.  This will keep you away from things from the wild internet that will infect your computer.  If it breaks a site, move along; you didn't really want what that site had to offer anyway.
 
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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2014, 05:02:31 PM »
I participated in development builds of 2000, and 7. I've played this game before. I know the risks. 10 is installed on a separate drive. The SSD containing my 7 ult install is unplugged. All good advice, but telling someone that 10 is a throwaway build after they already install it is a bit like shutting the barn door after the horse is out. Though at least that  person would know to back their stuff up before Apr 15. I might consider the hosts file, but I would have to read it line by line. I do just blindly trust files like that. As for IE, I use it for two reasons. First to download a browser that is not IE, and second because my company cannot code to save their life and most company websites have been written so that they only work with IE (i.e., they are not properly HTML compliant or require activeX  :( ).

Case closed, I found the other win10 threads, no additional responses required.

Thanks for your replies.

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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2014, 11:17:45 PM »
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Why would you think you could install a 3rd party antivirus package on a prototype pre-release operating system that's been available for just a few days?
Windows 9 has been around for quite some time.
Maybe you aren't aware that Windows 10 is simply a renamed Windows 9.
Not quite as new as you might think. :)
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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2014, 03:35:32 AM »
I'm more aware of what's in Windows and it's lineage than you can imagine, Bob.

My statements above are intentionally emphasized strongly.  People should NOT be relying upon pre-release software to run their computing lives.

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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2014, 12:14:33 PM »
I'm more aware of what's in Windows and it's lineage than you can imagine, Bob.

My statements above are intentionally emphasized strongly.  People should NOT be relying upon pre-release software to run their computing lives.

-Noel
If you are so "aware" then why make the quoted statement which clearly isn't fact.
Windows 9 (10 ) has been around for some time not just a few days as you stated.
Again, you seem to have a problem in accepting that we aren't all perfect that includes you and me.
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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2014, 03:34:36 PM »
I also have downloaded the Windows 10 Technical Preview and I am very impressed with its stability thus far. However, AS EXPECTED, the latest Avast version would not install. Moreover, as far as I know, many of the other top AV solutions are a no-go as well.... and that is also to be expected. However, there are a few lesser-known AV solutions that have been tested (by people at tenforums.com) but I wouldn't touch any of them with a ten-foot pole so I'll stick with Defender until an Avast solution is available.

Also, I would like to add my two cents regarding the Windows 9 comment "being around for quite some time." Specifically, I would like to know where to get the trial version and who is actually using it? In fact, most of the Win 9 information is mostly obtained by "leaks" from Microsoft employees. However, if I missed the trial, and there are many running Win 9, then I apologize for not knowing about the masses. Anyway, I will tell you that (I believe) Windows 10 is actually a Win 8.1.2 clone with some superficial cosmetic changes. My conclusion is based on doing intensive functionality checks, driver installation verifications, and DLL/EXE comparisons. Now, if I am incorrect in that assumption as well, I would like to know (specifically) how anyone determined it was a Win 9 clone.

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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2014, 03:43:06 PM »
There was no release of windows 9 for the public.
You needed to be an insider (MS MVP and some other select groups) to have access to Windows 9.
I'll also wait for avast! to come up with a "fix" so we can use it on Windows 10.
The actual thread on Windows 10 information is at:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1131585#msg1131585
Mainly because Windows 10 isn't an Avast product. :)

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Re: Windows 10 Technical Preview x64
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2014, 04:04:44 PM »
There was no release of windows 9 for the public.
You needed to be an insider (MS MVP and some other select groups) to have access to Windows 9.
I'll also wait for avast! to come up with a "fix" so we can use it on Windows 10.
The actual thread on Windows 10 information is at:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1131585#msg1131585
Mainly because Windows 10 isn't an Avast product. :)

As far a I knew, the Windows 9 Technical Trial was set to be released on September 30, 2014; however, my guess is they are set to abandon Windows 9 totally and will opt to continue the development of Windows 10. As far as I know, Windows Insiders and Technet subscribers (of which I am both) have not been given access to Windows 9 yet. BTW, the same thing happened during the transition from 8.0 to 8.1 when many were encountering Avast installation problems and it took a cooperative effort (between Avast and MS) to allow the installation to pass the final compatibility cross-check.
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