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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2014, 10:44:13 PM »
Your VPS and streaming updates will work just fine with avast! 2014.
You'll just be missing some of the new and improved features available in Avast 2015.
Speaking of those. Where can I actually find a list of them? The update process neglected to tell me what I was signing up for.
And how do I know I can trust that oldapps site?

Changes in Avast 2015

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2014, 10:46:57 PM »
Right now I am just sort of worried about installing an AV version that I got off a site that's not an official download page.  :-\

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2014, 10:48:21 PM »

Both Avast and WOT rate it a safe. (Remember, Google is your friend and can answer many questions. ) :)
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2014, 10:49:27 PM »

Both Avast and WOT rate it a safe. (Remember, Google is your friend and can answer many questions. ) :)
I have newer heard of this WOT. And I do not have avast integrated into my browser like that. (I use an old version of firefox before they screwed up the UI)

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2014, 10:52:09 PM »

Both Avast and WOT rate it a safe. (Remember, Google is your friend and can answer many questions. ) :)
I have newer heard of this WOT. And I do not have avast integrated into my browser like that. (I use an old version of firefox before they screwed up the UI)
Many times, old versions of programs aren't safe. Updates happen mainly to fix security breaches.
Using an old OS, also quite often restricts updates because the old OS isn't capable of handling the new features
designed to keep you safe.
(Your computer, your choice.)
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2014, 11:17:45 PM »
Many times, old versions of programs aren't safe. Updates happen mainly to fix security breaches.
Using an old OS, also quite often restricts updates because the old OS isn't capable of handling the new features
designed to keep you safe.
(Your computer, your choice.)
You make it sound like I am sticking with XP by choice. Let's be honest. If I had the money to spring for a new PC that can run windows 7... well I am posting on this forum aren't I?

And besides, being a computer programer has me dealing with software that is shall we say finicky with what platform it runs on. But for the love of god do not allow me to rant about my tools. If you allow me to start I won't be done by the end of the next year. Seriously... I just have to log off before I start.
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2014, 11:26:29 PM »
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You make it sound like I am sticking with XP by choice.
Not at all. Simply explaining some of the reasons why updating is beneficial.
My newest computer is currently 3 years old the others are all older but, luckily,
capable of running newer OS than XP. All of them are on Windows 8.
Even many of the older systems are capable of being updated.
(Don't know your system so it's something you need to research and decide.)
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2014, 11:27:46 PM »
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You make it sound like I am sticking with XP by choice.
Not at all. Simply explaining some of the reasons why updating is beneficial.
My newest computer is currently 3 years old the others are all older but, luckily,
capable of running newer OS than XP. All of them are on Windows 8.
Even many of the older systems are capable of being updated.
(Don't know your system so it's something you need to research and decide.)
It's mostly the tools to be honest. But that's life for you. On the plus side I have something to rant about and a newer ending stream of minor annoyances. So it evens out.

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2014, 03:03:04 AM »
Before you change AV's you could try the 2014 version of Avast.

Once installed, make sure that you DO NOT allow a Program Update.

This appears to me like a bit of conflicting information. There are numerous posts here about people having the update program unchecked, yet a new version of Avast was pushed on them and in some instances trashed their system.
So what's the story?

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2014, 03:09:09 AM »
Before you change AV's you could try the 2014 version of Avast.

Once installed, make sure that you DO NOT allow a Program Update.

This appears to me like a bit of conflicting information. There are numerous posts here about people having the update program unchecked, yet a new version of Avast was pushed on them and in some instances trashed their system.
So what's the story?

I can't speak for anyone else. My post referred to the just recent v.2014 and with the proper settings applied, Version 2015 does not force install itself.
I believe that process is for much older versions.

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2014, 03:35:03 AM »
I can't speak for anyone else. My post referred to the just recent v.2014 and with the proper settings applied, Version 2015 does not force install itself.
I believe that process is for much older versions.
Ok, Thanks much. I sure hope it won't hit recent versions.
I've been relying on SSM and NoScript and minimum web activity recently since got scared of those pushed upgrades, so back to Avast I guess.

@ppq, see if this DavidR trick will work for you in this new version - reply #17
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=147753.15

and OldApps site is safe in case you go that route, but I'd scan it at least at VirusTotal just in case. Best procedure in the future is to preserve your installers that you download from Avast :)
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2014, 04:05:59 AM »
You're welcome. :)

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2014, 11:55:49 AM »
Thanks you all. I reverted to the old version and it works fine.
As for the trick suggested I will be honest. As a software developer I have an in built disgust of the idea that you have to trick software into working as it is intended to work. It's just bad form to make your users struggle against your software to make it work right. I'll just wait until they fix the 2015 version on the source end.
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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2014, 01:40:29 PM »
I'd like to ask a question,,,how long can I keep the 2014 version of avast. I'm afraid to dl the 2015 version right now as I have some really important things I need the computer for right now and being a computer novice when it comes to problems I'm usually lost. How long will the 2014 be supported?????

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Re: Slow startup times with new version
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2014, 05:07:11 PM »
Thanks you all. I reverted to the old version and it works fine.
As for the trick suggested I will be honest. As a software developer I have an in built disgust of the idea that you have to trick software into working as it is intended to work. It's just bad form to make your users struggle against your software to make it work right. I'll just wait until they fix the 2015 version on the source end.

You aren't tricking avast for it to work - you are just delaying the auto update check so that it doesn't happen early in the boot when things could well be busy.
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