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See: http://ie.microsoft.com/Testdrive/Browser/DoNotTrack/Default.html
Firefox allegedly  partially supports, but Goole Chrome does not and is therefore a real tracking tool,
well the info in the link is not correct as Do Not Track also came to Google:

Step 1: Click on the drop-down menu in the top right-hand corner of the toolbar and choose Settings.

Step 2: At the bottom of the page that loads, click on Show advanced settings.

Step 3:  Under the Privacy heading, check the box next to Send a "Do Not Track" request with your browsing traffic.

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 01:08:07 AM »
Do Not Track may well be on all browsers, but by all accounts there are many sites that don't honour the do-not-track request.

So users have to be a bit smarter than just to enable the do-not-track option - and use other add-ons, NoScript, RequestPolicy, AdBlockPlus and CookieMonster, etc. etc.
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 01:22:54 AM »
@ Damien
Change your settings in Chrome to accomplish the same action as you get in IE
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 02:09:31 AM »
@bob3160,

Well accomplished that, bob3160. You know the inner workings of Google Chrome like the lining of your pockets  ;D

@DavidR,

For the trackers that do not honor a Do Not Track request, block with ABP or use Disconnect or Ghostery or Privacy Badger.
Just the one that suits you. Do not look for overkill, it could have reverse effects.
Privacy Badger works effectively  so that may be slowing down the browser somewhat  initially,
later you can add the blocking to ABP and remove Privacy Badger as you know what it blocks!
Script Safe is also blocking all the third party tracking requests, and that is what we are after.

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2014, 03:01:17 AM »
The "do not track" option is nothing new and it is totally useless.
What happens is that a browser send a request to the website and asks not to to track what the user is doing.
It depends on how the website is setup if the request is handled or not.
As they say, over 99.99% of the websites owners do not even know about "do not track me".

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2014, 04:35:08 AM »
@bob3160,

Well accomplished that, bob3160. You know the inner workings of Google Chrome like the lining of your pockets  ;D

@DavidR,

For the trackers that do not honor a Do Not Track request, block with ABP or use Disconnect or Ghostery or Privacy Badger.
Just the one that suits you. Do not look for overkill, it could have reverse effects.
Privacy Badger works effectively  so that may be slowing down the browser somewhat  initially,
later you can add the blocking to ABP and remove Privacy Badger as you know what it blocks!
Script Safe is also blocking all the third party tracking requests, and that is what we are after.

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 02:12:29 PM »
@bob3160,

Well accomplished that, bob3160. You know the inner workings of Google Chrome like the lining of your pockets  ;D

@DavidR,

For the trackers that do not honor a Do Not Track request, block with ABP or use Disconnect or Ghostery or Privacy Badger.
Just the one that suits you. Do not look for overkill, it could have reverse effects.
Privacy Badger works effectively  so that may be slowing down the browser somewhat  initially,
later you can add the blocking to ABP and remove Privacy Badger as you know what it blocks!
Script Safe is also blocking all the third party tracking requests, and that is what we are after.

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No cruises on the horizon... Happy new year to you also.
I don't use that option because in my opinion it only makes those that receive the notice aware of the fact that they
have reached a live sucker. Not wanting to be one, I just keep them guessing.
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2014, 02:49:50 PM »
The "do not track" option is nothing new and it is totally useless.
What happens is that a browser send a request to the website and asks not to to track what the user is doing.
It depends on how the website is setup if the request is handled or not.
As they say, over 99.99% of the websites owners do not even know about "do not track me".
I find the tracking protection lists work very well in IE, more like 99.99% of all ads are blocked and that's with just the two easylists http://www.iegallery.com/en-au/trackingprotectionlists

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2014, 04:06:07 PM »
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@DavidR,
For the trackers that do not honor a Do Not Track request, block with ABP or use Disconnect or Ghostery or Privacy Badger.
Just the one that suits you. Do not look for overkill, it could have reverse effects.
Privacy Badger works effectively  so that may be slowing down the browser somewhat  initially,
later you can add the blocking to ABP and remove Privacy Badger as you know what it blocks!
Script Safe is also blocking all the third party tracking requests, and that is what we are after.

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The problem is, how do you know that a site hasn't honoured the do-not-track function to block the site ;D
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2014, 01:22:20 AM »
Hi DavidR,

How do you know? Well if they do not honour the DNT request then Privacy Badger starts to colour them red and block that tracker.
Seems that was the idea behind this extension outlay from the start. Other extensions need your personal settings, and as you remarked you're often left in the dark, but you could check the header response: http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/
Example: http://tools.seobook.com/server-header-checker/?page=single&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.avast.com%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Dpost%3Btopic%3D163713.0%3Blast_msg%3D1167556&useragent=1&typeProtocol=10
The big companies do not comply with DNT as there is Yahoo and a lot of others all going their own way, read: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/1/4042128/do-not-track-privacy-versus-advertising
So advertisers win on all fronts, and so much for self-regulation NOT. It is all left to user-initiative.
Read: http://qz.com/125470/google-can-track-you-without-cookies/
Read why the end-user has lost this fight: http://www.thefilterbubble.com/10-things-you-can-do

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« Last Edit: December 31, 2014, 01:36:00 AM by polonus »
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2014, 01:45:09 AM »
The "do not track" option is nothing new and it is totally useless.
What happens is that a browser send a request to the website and asks not to to track what the user is doing.
It depends on how the website is setup if the request is handled or not.
As they say, over 99.99% of the websites owners do not even know about "do not track me".
I find the tracking protection lists work very well in IE, more like 99.99% of all ads are blocked and that's with just the two easylists http://www.iegallery.com/en-au/trackingprotectionlists
I completely agree. I use Abine as my list though.

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2014, 05:57:22 AM »
I find the tracking protection lists work very well in IE, more like 99.99% of all ads are blocked and that's with just the two easylists http://www.iegallery.com/en-au/trackingprotectionlists
I completely agree. I use Abine as my list though.
I prefer the easylists as they are comprised of the Adblock and Fanboy lists, updated more frequently with a broader range :)

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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2014, 06:58:42 PM »
For users of Adblock Plus, go to https://adblockplus.org/en/features
Open this dialogue: abp:subscribe?location=https%3A%2F%2Feasylist-downloads.adblockplus.org%2Feasyprivacy.txt&title=Disable%20Tracking
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Re: Why IE is the only browser to support non-tracking - it is not true?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 09:34:34 PM »
But there are other tracking methods now, like canvas-fingerprinting, browser fingerprinting, perma cookies etc.
Found that a combination of ABP, NoScript and RequestPolicy extensions delivers the best blocking method.

This extension that really worked bur slowed the browser down in a sense can no longer be found officially, read: https://forums.mozilla.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=15429&p=31724
Still to be found here: http://fingerprint.pet-portal.eu/files/firegloves-1.2.3.xpi
see: https://www.metascan-online.com/en/scanresult/file/8fb2fff984f248ca834511a4471ba769

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Google Chrome has extensions to block stopfingerprinting and canvas fingerprintblock.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2015, 11:23:45 PM by polonus »
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