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Read here: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/80a8ce54-a61d-11e4-9bd3-00144feab7de,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F80a8ce54-a61d-11e4-9bd3-00144feab7de.html%3Fsiteedition%3Duk&siteedition=uk&_i_referer=
Waiting for Admuncher to get free.
But do you want to be no protected against any malvertising from Google, MS, Amazon  :o
More and more we find ourselves on a slippery slope, who can be trusted when there is a lot of cheap money involved?  :)

Google (and other big companies) were asked to pay money by a firm called EYEO GmbH to show their ads. This firm owns Adblock Plus together with its main developer Wladimir Palant. And big player firms like Google accepted their offering (rumored as 30% of the ad-costs)

Re: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobilegeeks.de%2Fadblock-plus-undercover-einblicke-in-ein-mafioeses-werbenetzwerk%2F (link article author = Sascha Pallenberg.
Cited here: https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=5390.0

This is the Financial Times news story,,
Are these all verified facts,  or is it simply a question of whitelisting where users still have a choice
Or did the story stem from someone that hates ABP and Mr. Palant?


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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2015, 03:35:13 PM »
One word! "Adguard" ;D unfortunately it's not free though.

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 03:38:08 PM »
CraigB,

Adquard is free as a Google Chrome extension and I have it installed.

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 03:42:29 PM »
This isn't something that has just happened - it has certainly allowed ads from some (big) companies for some considerable time and they haven't hid it.

Some time ago I think it used to mention it and say if you the user choose to block these that is your choice and it would be honoured.

So are you saying they aren't going to honour that - as my blocks are still in force and I don't see any ads from the companies you mention. I rarely see any ads.

AdBlockPlus shouldn't be your only protection against malvertising and why other tools, NoScript and RequestPolicy FF ad-ons are more than capable of blocking ads in addition to their normal functionality.
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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2015, 03:52:00 PM »
Well ABP, still works for me. No issues so far.
Note: There's a checkbox right below the filter setting you might want to disable. ;)
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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 03:52:22 PM »
Hi DavidR,

I also am aware of ABP's whitelist of some accepted ads (you have an option also to block these).
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Adblock has said only 25 per cent of Adblock Plus users are strictly against any advertising. It said those users can disable the feature.

I found this story cited on a respectable Dutch news site: https://www.security.nl/posting/417119/AdBlock+Plus+zou+advertenties+Google+en+Microsoft+doorlaten

As I now precised further I just pass this, Financial Times also seems a reliable source.
Whenever it stems from a concerted action against ABP and it's makers I stand corrected.

Well, DavidR, as anyone this is a respectable source, the Reg has it also: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/02/google_amazon_taboola_microsoft_adplock_plus_unblock/

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 03:56:03 PM »
CraigB,

Adquard is free as a Google Chrome extension and I have it installed.

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Pol, I'm not sure if the extensions have anywhere near as many options as the full program does it ? can you add additional and custom filters in the extensions and block malware pages as well ?

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 04:04:07 PM »
It also speaks volumes about the companies bribing AdBlockPlus to let them in.

Especially Google who went to the point of not letting the AdBlockPlus android app/add-on to be included in their app store.
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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 04:09:41 PM »
See what it can do here: chrome-extension://bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg/pages/options.html
It can block ads on website, submit a complaint, get a website security report, allow acceptable ads (what we are discussing).
Set Adquard settings. I have set it for English, Dutch and Polish language settings.
Yes I can add filter rules. And Browsing Security - Phishing and malware protection - Help us in Browsing security filters developmentSubmit anonymous security-related information.
Nice extension next to Ghostery, HTTP Switchboard and Tracker SSL.

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 04:23:14 PM »
Not bad then if you get the extension for free :)

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2015, 06:03:56 PM »
The ABP non-intrusive advertising whitelist filter:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.txt
There is a new list every day.
I hope the list is free of malvertising  :-X
An alternative is formed by Adblock Edge which  comes without the "Allow non-intrusive advertising" option (firefox)
For Chrome there is uBlock.

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 06:30:21 PM »
The ABP non-intrusive advertising whitelist filter:
https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.txt
There is a new list every day.
I hope the list is free of malvertising  :-X
An alternative is formed by Adblock Edge which  comes without the "Allow non-intrusive advertising" option (firefox)
For Chrome there is uBlock.

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For Pale Moon there is Adblock Latitude :

  https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/privacy-and-security/adblock-latitude/

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2015, 06:57:05 PM »
@abruptum, thank you very much for that additional info.

Here is a collection of lists  to evaluate the extended versatility of the lightweight uBlock extension for Chrome and also for Sleipnir.
Filter lists for uBlock: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Filter-lists:-gorhill
And you can use an adblocker for more blocking(s) than just ads. It may also block tracking (privacy), malware domains, social blocking (annoyances), multipurpose hosts - as you all may see from the various filters and block lists presented in the link above.
Enjoy my good adblocking friends, enjoy.

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2015, 10:46:24 PM »
An alternative is formed by Adblock Edge which  comes without the "Allow non-intrusive advertising" option (firefox)
For Chrome there is uBlock.

I recommend those too, but uBlock is available for Chromium, Firefox and Safari :)

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Re: Adblock Plus being paid to let certain ads through - Google, MS, Amazon!
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2015, 12:15:50 AM »
And then of course we have ad-launching that comes from where it is hard-coded into the browser.
Read here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=165590.msg1179473#msg1179473 
Info credits go to our forum friend OliPicard, and he seems to know what he is on about....

There is no browser based adblocker that can help us here.
Fighting some ads becomes more and more of a rearguard action, my friends.

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