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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2015, 01:51:56 AM »
Please stop writing novels, no one has time to read them.  :(

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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2015, 02:06:10 AM »
Please stop writing novels, no one has time to read them.  :(

OK, my apologies.  :-[ ... I'll  :-X it....  ;)
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2015, 03:44:15 PM »
If you don't like the ads pop-ups..........buy the paid version.
That's not (or shouldn't be) the reason upgrade to the paid version. You upgrade, if you want/need all those extra features paid versions offers.

This is the smartest thing I've seen anyone say about it. If the application is a "trial" where it's going to stop working in a certain # of days, then sure...pop-up the ads every minute if you want to. If it's a regular (non-trial) application that's simply limited in features, then you shouldn't try to punish or even aggravate the user who uses it. It seems like Avast is treating the free version like a trial. They should re-evaluate their objective with the free version: either tone-down the ads (maybe once per week) or just make it a trial and then spam the heck out of the user.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2015, 08:52:43 AM »
Dunno, but have not seen those pop-ups after i changed the display time to 1 second?
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2015, 01:59:33 PM »
I might upgrade to the paid version, but last time I looked, BitDefender had better ratings. And, from comments above, it appears that they continue the harrassment of paid customers.

Those pop-ups go, or I go. In one week.

Piled on top of that is their failure to update their interface to make it readable on HD+ (3200 x1800) displays without activating the magnifier. They've promised for nearly a year to fix that. The number of these screens on the market is skyrocketing. MOVE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY dudes!

Ooops. Now I must turn on the magnifier again to read the freakin' CAPTCHA! Clicking the Listen link does not work.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2015, 02:05:07 PM »
I might upgrade to the paid version, but last time I looked, BitDefender had better ratings. And, from comments above, it appears that they continue the harrassment of paid customers.

Those pop-ups go, or I go. In one week.

Piled on top of that is their failure to update their interface to make it readable on HD+ (3200 x1800) displays without activating the magnifier. They've promised for nearly a year to fix that. The number of these screens on the market is skyrocketing. MOVE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY dudes!

Ooops. Now I must turn on the magnifier again to read the freakin' CAPTCHA! Clicking the Listen link does not work.
This was your last captcha!. :)
In the paid version, you have the option to turn off the "offers". :)
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2015, 05:22:59 PM »

This was your last captcha!. :)
In the paid version, you have the option to turn off the "offers". :)

That could be an inducement -- if they told us and IF I could read all the panes without a magnifier.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2015, 07:08:38 PM »
I might upgrade to the paid version, but last time I looked, BitDefender had better ratings. And, from comments above, it appears that they continue the harrassment of paid customers.

Those pop-ups go, or I go. In one week.

Piled on top of that is their failure to update their interface to make it readable on HD+ (3200 x1800) displays without activating the magnifier. They've promised for nearly a year to fix that. The number of these screens on the market is skyrocketing. MOVE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY dudes!

Ooops. Now I must turn on the magnifier again to read the freakin' CAPTCHA! Clicking the Listen link does not work.
This was your last captcha!. :)
In the paid version, you have the option to turn off the "offers". :)

Great, so the answer is to acquiesce to the irritant of POPUP ads by buying the product for the primary purpose of turning off POPUP ads.  Well, I guess in that case for some users who would have probably not bought the product this intrusive approach to marketing products would apparently be working for Avast.  On the other hand I would suggest to you that there are others who may possibly be more inclined to doggedly resist acquiescing to this method of marketing and stand firm and resolute against such practices.  Point being the REASON someone buys a product should not be for the purpose to stop what is perceived by the purchaser as irritating harassment and to offer this as a solution is frankly in my mind abhorrent and shameless.  For some this approach of what would have to be called bating consumers to buy products for the purpose to avoid an irritant will do nothing to help build any level of good rapport or goodwill but instead can unfortunately create antagonism that results in bad word of mouth in the cyber community that simply does not help in regards to an increase of the customer base in my view.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2015, 07:21:15 PM »
An alternative to the popup ads in the free version is not to offer the free version at all. ;D
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2015, 07:44:26 PM »
Or, try another manufacturers free version. Let us know what you think of the protection
and lack of ads. :)
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2015, 07:46:12 PM »
An alternative to the popup ads in the free version is not to offer the free version at all. ;D

And of course a large percentage of Avast users would then go to other FREE AV programs i.e. AVG, Bitdefender etc etc as I'm sure you are aware.... Look I see no problem with providing the option to stop POPUP ads in a paid version.  What I am saying is that the primary inducement for getting the paid version should not be to eliminate the POPUP ads.  I'm pretty certain that Avast has ran the numbers and in the knowledge of how many of those who use Avast that happen to be FREE users and what the estimate would be of user base attrition as a result of doing exactly what you suggest they know full well this would approach would be totally ill-advised.

I think any reasonable person would agree with this premise.  So I think most if not all would agree to suggest this as a direct inducement to pay is inherently dubious in the least and if the reason to buy actually IS for this reason then most if not all would also agree this is simply wrong.  If you or others cannot comprehend this then I can't help you.  My premise here is simply based on the paradigm of honorable marketing practices.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2015, 07:50:25 PM »
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My premise here is simply based on the paradigm of honorable marketing practices
You could try to sell that to Government agency. They aren't in business to make money only spend it.
It's also a great work model to bankruptcy. :)
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2015, 07:56:45 PM »
An alternative to the popup ads in the free version is not to offer the free version at all. ;D
What I am saying is that a paid version should NOT be the primary inducement to purchase the paid version.

I'm quite sure that having a paid version is the primary inducement to purchase the paid version.  What I think you meant to say is that getting rid of the popup ads shouldn't be the primary inducement. :)  At least for me, it wasn't the reason I bought my Avast subscription; it was for the extra features provided.  The fact that I can eliminate the popups is just icing on the cake, but for a while this option wasn't available even in the paid versions.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2015, 08:51:53 PM »
@ lakrsrool

If you are finished writing essays and/or short stories try this one on for size...Have you ever driven down a highway and "not" see advertising?
A small pop-up two or three times a day isn't worth getting your knickers in a twist. Just click the "x" and move on. A pop-up every now and then
is a very small price to pay for "free" protection. You can set pop-up duration to as low as two seconds.

By the way, the longer the post the less likely someone is going to take the time to read it. "Short, sweet and to the point" is the best thing to do.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2015, 09:46:10 PM »
An alternative to the popup ads in the free version is not to offer the free version at all. ;D
What I am saying is that a paid version should NOT be the primary inducement to purchase the paid version.

I'm quite sure that having a paid version is the primary inducement to purchase the paid version.  What I think you meant to say is that getting rid of the popup ads shouldn't be the primary inducement. :)  At least for me, it wasn't the reason I bought my Avast subscription; it was for the extra features provided.  The fact that I can eliminate the popups is just icing on the cake, but for a while this option wasn't available even in the paid versions.

Thanks for catching my mistake, you're absolutely correct, I've made the correction to my post.  :)  I'm pleased to know for those who purchase the paid version they now have the option.  It would be even better if this toggle was made clear and available in the POPUP itself like you typically see in most POPUPS giving the user the option at the time to "turn off" the POPPUP in the future built right into the POPUP itself.  I can understand however, why making it easier and more transparent as to how to stop advertising POPUPS would be something an advertiser would not want to provide the user on the other hand.
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