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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #105 on: April 08, 2015, 05:21:12 PM »
I am also losing patience with the new 'supersize' (and irrelevant) business pop-ups. Irritation at increased frequency is giving way to annoyance.

Ken

As expected... they have the right to advertise... give them an inch they take a mile.  They may have the right to advertise but they do not have to right to become a nuisance and they have crossed the line with these business ads.

KNOCK IT OFF!

And whomever is running around power hungry and deleting everyone's posts knock that off too!
You have alternatives and choices. Are you actually still using Avast ???

Except Bob's useless posts... feel free to delete those and his account
Still waiting for our answer ???
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #106 on: April 08, 2015, 05:27:01 PM »
I am also losing patience with the new 'supersize' (and irrelevant) business pop-ups. Irritation at increased frequency is giving way to annoyance.

Ken

As expected... they have the right to advertise... give them an inch they take a mile.  They may have the right to advertise but they do not have to right to become a nuisance and they have crossed the line with these business ads.

KNOCK IT OFF!

And whomever is running around power hungry and deleting everyone's posts knock that off too!
You have alternatives and choices. Are you actually still using Avast ???

Except Bob's useless posts... feel free to delete those and his account
Still waiting for our answer ???

What does your question have to do with this thread?  Bob you have posted nothing of any use to any one in over a year.  Time to retire from the forum.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #107 on: April 08, 2015, 05:37:58 PM »
And whomever is running around power hungry and deleting everyone's posts knock that off too!

Hi dprout69 :)

No one is "power hungry" here.
We can see exactly which posts are deleted, and by who.
So any misuse would be noticed immediately.

That said : There is also a forum bug that makes posts sometimes disappear as soon as you post them.
We are aware of that bug, but right now we don't have a fix for it.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #108 on: April 08, 2015, 05:55:17 PM »
I am also losing patience with the new 'supersize' (and irrelevant) business pop-ups. Irritation at increased frequency is giving way to annoyance.

Ken

As expected... they have the right to advertise... give them an inch they take a mile.  They may have the right to advertise but they do not have to right to become a nuisance and they have crossed the line with these business ads.

KNOCK IT OFF!

And whomever is running around power hungry and deleting everyone's posts knock that off too!
You have alternatives and choices. Are you actually still using Avast ???

Except Bob's useless posts... feel free to delete those and his account
Still waiting for our answer ???

What does your question have to do with this thread?  Bob you have posted nothing of any use to any one in over a year.  Time to retire from the forum.
Just so the record is clear, your deleted posts have nothing to do with me.
Your continued personal attacks however can wind up with you being banned from this forum.
I would suggest that you stop your constant attack against certain Forum members. (myself included)
I am still waiting for an answer.  :(
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2015, 06:27:28 PM »
I am also losing patience with the new 'supersize' (and irrelevant) business pop-ups. Irritation at increased frequency is giving way to annoyance.

Ken

As expected... they have the right to advertise... give them an inch they take a mile.  They may have the right to advertise but they do not have to right to become a nuisance and they have crossed the line with these business ads.

KNOCK IT OFF!

And whomever is running around power hungry and deleting everyone's posts knock that off too!
You have alternatives and choices. Are you actually still using Avast ???

Except Bob's useless posts... feel free to delete those and his account
Still waiting for our answer ???

What does your question have to do with this thread?  Bob you have posted nothing of any use to any one in over a year.  Time to retire from the forum.
Just so the record is clear, your deleted posts have nothing to do with me.
Your continued personal attacks however can wind up with you being banned from this forum.
I would suggest that you stop your constant attack against certain Forum members. (myself included)
I am still waiting for an answer.  :(

Just so the record is clear, never made any connection to you and posts being deleted... guilty conscious?  Just a question.
Just so the record is clear, I would suggest you retire from the forum... not a personal attack... just a suggestion. 
Just so the record is clear, I never personally attack any forum members as I don't know any.  However, I am attacking your reading comprehension skills because the responses that you provide always show a lack of failing to understand what the OP is asking, fails to understand how your words and passive aggressive mannerisms cause an unpleasant experience for posters, fails to understand that how you are asking me a question which is utter nonsense and has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, slows everyone down and Bob if you need your answer, just look at the post for which you are asking the question... ya see that little screenshot that I attached?  Do you?  That means that I am using avast... was that hard to figure out on your own?

Quit wasting people's time and retire... just a suggestion.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2015, 06:35:50 PM »
dprout69@ you can drop the attitude thanks, I've already given you a warning...if you'd like that bumped up to a ban then you are going the right way about it ::)

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #111 on: April 09, 2015, 04:53:33 AM »
i'm carefully following this thread. obviously there are 2 sides to this. but one things is certain. there was not this much advertisement in the past. i think this thread needs a little more serious discussion.

let me ask the people that don't mind the advertisements. how much would you consider too much?
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #112 on: April 09, 2015, 01:32:34 PM »
i'm carefully following this thread. obviously there are 2 sides to this. but one things is certain. there was not this much advertisement in the past. i think this thread needs a little more serious discussion.

let me ask the people that don't mind the advertisements. how much would you consider too much?

3 sides... you have the evangelists that will never say anything bad about the product no matter how bad it is so they will never say it's too much... you have the people in the thread that feel no advertising should be included which is just as ridiculous and you have people like me that understands they have the right to advertise until they make themselves a nuisance which is inevitable because they will push until they get enough push back.  I defended their right to advertise at the beginning of this thread and now within less than a month they felt it was ok to put a pop up on almost 1/4 of my screen.  That's too much.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #113 on: April 09, 2015, 02:24:40 PM »
i'm carefully following this thread. obviously there are 2 sides to this. but one things is certain. there was not this much advertisement in the past. i think this thread needs a little more serious discussion.

let me ask the people that don't mind the advertisements. how much would you consider too much?

you have the evangelists that will never say anything bad about the product no matter how bad it is so they will never say it's too much...

Not true :)

All kinds of issues are discussed among (Uber)Evangelists and with Avast!, but that is not vissiable for other forum users.
We can freely express our opinions ( otherwise I would already have been gone ), and we don't agree on everything, but sometimes we can convince Avast! to change things.

Also among the (Uber)Evangelists there are many different caracters with different opinions.
But you don't see that all here in public ;)

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #114 on: April 09, 2015, 02:43:07 PM »
@ dprout69,
Agree with everything ??? You must be kidding. There are also many email communications that you never see.
Many of the changes and many of the ads that have been complained about stopped because of our complaints.
You may not see or know about it but it happens frequently.
The ability to disagree and complain is also one of the reasons why after 12 years, Avast is still protecting my computer.
Disagreeing is healthy. Harassing is a different matter and usually accomplishes nothing more than bad feelings.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #115 on: April 09, 2015, 04:01:02 PM »
Whatever is happening behind the scenes is unknown to those non evangelists who read the forum.  In the years I have been reading this I can honestly say with no exaggeration or hesitation I have never seen an evangelist say a single thing against Avast.  Now if that occurs behind the scenes more power to you, however some stuff that is slipping through such as this business ad that takes up 1/4 of the screen simply isn't acceptable and obviously means the message isn't being delivered clearly enough.  So if no one at Avast can see straight, I would hope that the evangelist would and let them know they are upsetting a few people.  @lakrsrool earlier said a couple of ads were aggressive... to which I said meh... NOW I say this is aggressive. 

They have increased in number, size, time (as they are certainly staying up much longer than the pop up options have been previously) and this is just in the last month.

So prove me wrong... let avast know instead of telling users to like it or lump it.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #116 on: April 09, 2015, 04:58:14 PM »
Whatever is happening behind the scenes is unknown to those non evangelists who read the forum.  In the years I have been reading this I can honestly say with no exaggeration or hesitation I have never seen an evangelist say a single thing against Avast.  Now if that occurs behind the scenes more power to you, however some stuff that is slipping through such as this business ad that takes up 1/4 of the screen simply isn't acceptable and obviously means the message isn't being delivered clearly enough.  So if no one at Avast can see straight, I would hope that the evangelist would and let them know they are upsetting a few people.  @lakrsrool earlier said a couple of ads were aggressive... to which I said meh... NOW I say this is aggressive. 

They have increased in number, size, time (as they are certainly staying up much longer than the pop up options have been previously) and this is just in the last month.

So prove me wrong... let avast know instead of telling users to like it or lump it.
Like it or Lump it in the free version is not anything you or I can change. We can make some program changes and limit their effect.
This is a decision made by Avast. I've pointed out before that they are not a 501c3 corporation and must feel theses ads increase sales.
I may not agree but can't change that fact any more than you have been able to do so.
I just attempt to seek change in a different way than your method.
 
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #117 on: April 19, 2015, 06:44:37 PM »
And yet another dismissive statement from Avast Evangelist. Sorry, the Avast Business popup is by far the worst of the bunch, I have had it every day for the past week or so ....

It is not a dismissive statement by us. I could not tell you why you are having it that many times, but in my case I just had it once last week. This week, today, I got the one about Avast survey.

This has been said many times in the forums. The Pop up adverts come piggy backing Avast VPS ( main virus sig updates ). I have them set so that Avast look for them every 4 hours ( default ) so If I stayed in front of the screen for 8 hours, I would get 2 pop ups at the most if any is sent.

Usually Avast has 2 main VPS updates a day. May be 3; However, I can not say that if there was no new VPS when Avast look for them, it would pop up or not an advert. So If you have reconfigured when Avast looks for updates to 2 hours or less ( BTW it is not necessary since you got stream updates 24/7 ) instead of 4 hours, you might have more pop up adverts.

So, check your updates virus signature time so that Avast looks for them every 4 or 6 hours. Make your info and updates popups last only 1 second, and may be these pop ups will become less intrusive.

Now the ads are popping up in between updates!  I just got one advertising their mobile product even though avast didn't check for updates.  I have all my popups set for a 1 second duration except Malware incidents and the thing stayed up for at least 20 seconds.

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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #118 on: April 20, 2015, 03:56:02 AM »
Whatever is happening behind the scenes is unknown to those non evangelists who read the forum.  In the years I have been reading this I can honestly say with no exaggeration or hesitation I have never seen an evangelist say a single thing against Avast.  Now if that occurs behind the scenes more power to you, however some stuff that is slipping through such as this business ad that takes up 1/4 of the screen simply isn't acceptable and obviously means the message isn't being delivered clearly enough.  So if no one at Avast can see straight, I would hope that the evangelist would and let them know they are upsetting a few people.  @lakrsrool earlier said a couple of ads were aggressive... to which I said meh... NOW I say this is aggressive. 

They have increased in number, size, time (as they are certainly staying up much longer than the pop up options have been previously) and this is just in the last month.

So prove me wrong... let avast know instead of telling users to like it or lump it.

Since I am being quoted here (see in RED above), I'll respond.  I frankly do not recall ever saying quote: "a couple of ads were aggressive" as you've said I have.... I do recall saying that I had been generally getting far more that 2-3 ads per day as some had been suggesting is the case (and as many as even 5+, of which I'm presuming Bob3160 would say is possibly an exaggeration which perhaps admittedly may be but then it's possible that Bob3160 may not be taking into account the number of hours I generally use a  computer and in any case I can certainly say it sure seemed like it was that much at the time).  I'd say it is probably more accurate to say that I was complaining about more than say "2-3 ads" minimally as being in your words too "aggressive" than to say I stated in your words quote "a couple of ads were aggressive".  In fact you might even notice in the example interchange below I actually said quote "couple of times a day, well OK" (that is relative to my computer usage, which I'll touch on below), so it would appear I am perhaps being misquoted by you dprout69, unless of course I'm forgetting somewhere that I said differently and in that case I welcome a post showing where I'm mistaken which is of course not out of the question and I'll be happy to apologize for my oversight.  It is interesting to see how you've now reached a similar conclusion that I had in regards to ads and I'll say that I clearly do agree with you that the example image you posted is clearly beyond the pale.

That all said, most importantly what I've often been saying all along is that the number of ads will inherently be relative to how much a person uses their respective computer obviously.  A person using the computer 2-3 hours a day will have a very different experience than a person who will invariably use their computer 10-15 hours a day as is very often the case with me.  And of course as a result in my case I had been clearly experiencing far more than 2-3 ads per day as I've said many times in this topic which again as I've very often pointed out will obviously always be a direct consequence to the number of hours a user happens to be on the computer.

I'd say that the following prior interchange in this thread (page 5 to be specific) serves to illustrate basically the point I've been making for the most part:

I updated avast 2 days ago and ever since I been getting an annoying pop-up daily asking me to upgrade.  Is this how its going to be from now on?

Read through the thread if you like, I'd only say if you just get one POPUP daily then consider yourself fortunate.  Of course as I've  pointed out in this thread it all depends upon how much of the time a user is on their respective computer but I can tell you someone like myself who works most of the day and sometimes into the night on many different things on my computer I will get several POPUPS (far more than 2-3 times) within that time.

And of course I discussed this below (in part) in a reply I posted on the previous page 4 (where the OP was arguing 2-3 times a day shouldn't be a problem) in regards to how there exists a much greater impact for users who are on their respective computers longer than most:

I can tell you that I've had just the "seasonal sale" POPUP alone appear far more than 2 to 3 times a day.  A couple of times a day, well OK, but if you think about it, you might experience a bombshell epiphany and recognize that the frequency that a user might experience repetitive POPUPS will inherently depend upon how much of the time a person is on their computer (hmmm head scratch, light bulb turns on). 

A person can be on their computer for various reasons (i.e. they may be involved in application programming and/or designing websites or they maybe involved in an on-line business or they may be involved in their own respective marketing program etc etc for example) which requires them to be on the computer most of the time.  In my case I am mostly on my computer various times throughout the day and night for prolonged periods of time and again I can assure you that I get various types of Avast POPUPS FAR MORE than just 2 to 3 times a day and when you happen to be diligently working on something it is clearly distracting to be interrupted with the irritant of an incidental ad when the fact is I have other applications that provide me with much more meaningful POPUP messages throughout the day and night that are far more critical to my needs than the insignificance of a repetitive ad all day and night long.  Which is why I have previously suggested that either "learning" software or giving the user the option to minimally reduce the ads in situations where the user happens to be on their respective computer for longer periods of time than most is a reasonable option to consider offering the user. 

Personally, I don't see how POPPING UP an ad (especially the very same one) more than once a day is necessary and more than that it would seem to me to be in the realm of "badgering" hence not only unnecessary but actually work against the goal of promoting the product as a result of this aggressive approach to marketing a product.
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Re: Offer pop-ups
« Reply #119 on: April 20, 2015, 07:37:52 AM »
Wow, another novel.
I also spend at least 12 hrs per day, sometimes more on my computer and can't remember getting more than 2
pop ups in a day. Some days less, some days none at all.
Still don't have any problems with simply closing them or waiting till they disappear on their own. After all, I'm getting my protection for free.
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