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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2015, 02:12:42 PM »
Sorry maybe it was mentioned earlier but what about restore points? Were these tried?

Windows updates put in a Software Distribution restore point before installing. If Safe Mode was still working that is the first thing I would have tried using or going back to an even earlier restore point.

This sort of horrible problem is something that has always worried me greatly. It is something I have attempted to avoid after the similar trouble I had following a Windows update about three years ago. That was NOT caused by an AVAST conflict.

It makes more work but since then updates of any sort apart from AVAST definitions I've disciplined myself to install/initiate only manually. This is usually done on a weekly or monthly basis but whatever the case only after I've put in a restore point as a safety net. TBH I'd do the same with AVAST but last time I tried that ie. turning off automatic definition updates, the warnings and prompts this caused were intolerable.

So far, so good but the reports here of some of the recent AVAST versions messing with restore points makes me very concerned.         

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2015, 02:53:19 PM »
windows XP is still updating?

Only Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool once a month and and occasional Office depending on your version. Not sure how long those will continue.You can check by going to updates and click on custom tab, some 3rd party updates programs might also show Good luck
You could extend receiving updates for Windows XP by using the following:
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Microsoft hasn't stopped issuing updates for XP. They did stop making it available for home users.
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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 08:57:36 PM »
Sorry maybe it was mentioned earlier but what about restore points? Were these tried?

Windows updates put in a Software Distribution restore point before installing. If Safe Mode was still working that is the first thing I would have tried using or going back to an even earlier restore point.

This sort of horrible problem is something that has always worried me greatly. It is something I have attempted to avoid after the similar trouble I had following a Windows update about three years ago. That was NOT caused by an AVAST conflict.

It makes more work but since then updates of any sort apart from AVAST definitions I've disciplined myself to install/initiate only manually. This is usually done on a weekly or monthly basis but whatever the case only after I've put in a restore point as a safety net. TBH I'd do the same with AVAST but last time I tried that ie. turning off automatic definition updates, the warnings and prompts this caused were intolerable.

So far, so good but the reports here of some of the recent AVAST versions messing with restore points makes me very concerned.       

Really wish people would read the entire post and or thread before sending in their thoughts and or experiences. You should be very very worried if it hasn't happened yet it will at some point. Yes we tried everything, AS I MENTIONED clicking on Avast in SAFE MODE locked me out of even SAFE MODE I had a professional IT tech on site he tried every back door to get into the winows system, repair or just open  :'( Everything indicated Avast as the problem. But to be all fair MS malicious software tool triggered Avast's response. 

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 09:10:04 PM »
windows XP is still updating?

Only Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool once a month and and occasional Office depending on your version. Not sure how long those will continue.You can check by going to updates and click on custom tab, some 3rd party updates programs might also show Good luck
You could extend receiving updates for Windows XP by using the following:
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Microsoft hasn't stopped issuing updates for XP. They did stop making it available for home users.

Yikes  :o I Really wish people would read the entire post and or thread before sending in their thoughts and or experiences. Malicious software removal tool update is what CRASHED the OS But to be all fair MS malicious software removal tool played a part in it. 
So why would you advise people to continue using it in conjunction with AVAST! Geeze Google the problem I'm not the only person this has happened too. AVAST is no longer compatible with XP Pro. Their is a bug in the updates that Avast is not talking about. Glad it hasn't happened to U yet, You've been WARNED!

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 09:12:05 PM »
XP (SP3) and avast are working fine on all systems that I installed it.
What I am still missing in this thread...
What exact version of avast do you have ?
Any other security software installed ? (or did you)

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2015, 09:37:03 PM »
XP (SP3) and avast are working fine on all systems that I installed it.

That's nice! you've been lucky so far ;) Google-Google-Googl
Quote from: Eddy link=topic=170143.msg1219353#msg1219353
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What I am still missing in this thread...
What exact version of avast do you have ?

AS I said wish people would read before asking look at my profile at the bottom of the post "Dell XPS m1530 w/moderfied Dual O/S -XP PRO  SP3/Vista. 320gb/7200 RAM HD & all the bells & whistles. Avast: Home 6.0 (UP to date) unfortunately

Any other security software installed ? (or did you)

Nothing running but Avast! malwarebytes on demand that's it! Amazing how all answer always look to place the blame were it doesn't belong. Google-Google-Google and go to MS help as well. Unfortunately You won't find a stitch of it on AVAST :-X

I'm no longer using Avast or XP Pro, had to temporarily reinstall the Vista OS to have a workable puter. considering buying a Mac that I can Parallel  XP Pro on just for the programs I need that can't be run on anything else. So Good luck to you all _ i'm done

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 09:58:27 PM »
I wish people would keep their signature updated.
Unfortunately not everyone is doing it.

Well, there is already one of your problems.
You should have used the latest (or later) avast version.

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2015, 03:21:18 PM »
I wish people would keep their signature updated.
Unfortunately not everyone is doing it.

True, but most people don't spend that much time in the forum. only when there's an issue so updating their signature is not the most pressing issue.

Well, there is already one of your problems.
You should have used the latest (or later) avast version.

Wrong ::) Again ,if you read the top of the thread the latest version is what caused the problem in the first place, When I asked for HELP 2 months before it CRASHED! After updating to the Latest Version.  It's a mute point now, Hard Drive is unrecoverable and it's to late in the game to reinstall XP Pro. The update to my original post was not to ask for help, only to inform other XP users to proceed with caution if they start to experience similar early symptoms. Something Avast should be doing not me ;) before they run into a similar fate.
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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2015, 06:03:00 PM »
After reading this Topic I'd just like to add I also run an xp OS with Avast Premier installed and so far no issues like described here.
Having said that, I think I'd be foolish to think this 'magnificent and beautiful' but Obsolete xp OS will not run into issues as time quickly passes by with other 3rd party software as they develop for present and future technologies.
It's just a matter of time ;)

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2015, 07:41:57 PM »
After reading this Topic I'd just like to add I also run an xp OS with Avast Premier installed and so far no issues like described here.
Having said that, I think I'd be foolish to think this 'magnificent and beautiful' but Obsolete xp OS will not run into issues as time quickly passes by with other 3rd party software as they develop for present and future technologies.
It's just a matter of time ;)

Thank you kind Sir 8) alas someone with who knows what he's talking about ;) Just sorry you didn't reply to me 2 months earlier maybe I could have headed off the total demise of my XP Pro OS. Long live XP the best ;D

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2015, 09:21:54 PM »
After reading this Topic I'd just like to add I also run an xp OS with Avast Premier installed and so far no issues like described here.
Having said that, I think I'd be foolish to think this 'magnificent and beautiful' but Obsolete xp OS will not run into issues as time quickly passes by with other 3rd party software as they develop for present and future technologies.
It's just a matter of time ;)

Thank you kind Sir 8) alas someone with who knows what he's talking about ;) Just sorry you didn't reply to me 2 months earlier maybe I could have headed off the total demise of my XP Pro OS. Long live XP the best ;D
I guess you weren't around for all of the complaints when XP was first release.
There was a long learning  curve that most of today's users seem to have forgotten.
Windows 8.1 happens to be an excellent OS and hopefully Windows 10, once finalized and released will improve on the 8.1 starting foundation.
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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2015, 06:31:32 PM »
After reading this Topic I'd just like to add I also run an xp OS with Avast Premier installed and so far no issues like described here.
Having said that, I think I'd be foolish to think this 'magnificent and beautiful' but Obsolete xp OS will not run into issues as time quickly passes by with other 3rd party software as they develop for present and future technologies.
It's just a matter of time ;)

Thank you kind Sir 8) alas someone with who knows what he's talking about ;) Just sorry you didn't reply to me 2 months earlier maybe I could have headed off the total demise of my XP Pro OS. Long live XP the best ;D
I guess you weren't around for all of the complaints when XP was first release.
There was a long learning  curve that most of today's users seem to have forgotten.
Windows 8.1 happens to be an excellent OS and hopefully Windows 10, once finalized and released will improve on the 8.1 starting foundation.


Oh contra! Don't let my handle fool U. My first computer was a Windows 2000 Professional my 2nd was XP Pro in 2004. In 2008 when dell didn't have a replacement for a bad motherboard I got the XPS with Vista which was a total disaster so replaced the hard drive, partitioned it and added XP Pro other than a few minor hiccups I never had any issues with 2000 or XP Pro until 2 months ago when Avast's program update blocked windows updates and then Blocked Windows from opening even in Safe Mode 11 days ago.

In closing, I'm glad you happy with your newer OS, But what works for you doesn't mean everyone shares your point of view or serves their needs. So your comments are irrelevant especially when your clueless to the posters requirements of their OS and just for the sake of having something to say. ::)

PS; There is a reason there are still 25% of us die heart XP/Pro users including major Corp. & institutions do not share your love of 7,8, 8.1 and probably 10.

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2015, 06:38:25 PM »
I have build my first computer in 1982 with electronic components.
Screen ?
Yes it had one, a dot matrix display.
Had to design and make the PCB (Printed circuit board ) myself.

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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2015, 06:48:50 PM »
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PS; There is a reason there are still 25% of us die heart XP/Pro users including major Corp. & institutions do not share your love of 7,8, 8.1 and probably 10.

Yes I know there are also still people using rotary dial telephones. :)
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Re: Last Avast update conflicting with windows XP update's
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2015, 06:58:49 PM »
What ?!
You still haven't bought a decent phone for your sweet wife ? ;D