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Offline Staticguy

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WOW after having used many antivirus software this is the 1st time that I am hearing that AV Companies can licence other AV engines     
Bitdefender is the most used AV engine

Lets see if you can guess who is using it    ;D
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/8dafb21e7d106a6c98f745f30c2577ee7b0984ec7ba2c4107f7ddcd0d127baf6/analysis/


If you can recall avast used to be licensed to GData, which used to use two scanning engines Avast and another, now BitDefender is one of the two engines.

Oh I didn't know that one at all and I don't recall Avat used the GData. Was this prior to Avast 7. I started using Avast in the very first version of 7. So now Avast uses BitDefender and what other engine?
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I think you got it wrong ;)
G Data used two engines - Avast and Bitdefender (and before that Avast and Kaspersky, and before that something else). Then they switched to their own engine, accompanied with Bitdefender.

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and Emsisoft use two, Bitdefender as B engine ... seen as a (B) behind detection name
Norman safeground (not on VT) Use Bitdefender ... the one you see on VT is the orginal Norman engine now owned by BlueCoat (will probably change name one day?)


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Qihoo 360 statement regarding cheating in lab test
http://blog.360totalsecurity.com/en/qihoo-360-statement-regarding-cheating-in-lab-test/

Sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck change, 'duck' to 'BS' and I think you have the answer to this response.

It would be interesting to know why they bothered getting licensing for another engine if they had no intention of enabling it by default on user systems. Many non tech users don't even venture into settings.

This adding bloat and expense as the licensing of the bitdefender engine must relate to the number of users ???
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It is the user who has the complete freedom to choose how many of them should be activated at any time.
Well, I can make a Fort Knox that put the computer in my knees... Is this protection? No, I can go nowhere with a frozen computer... Oh, well, if marketing can say I'm further ahead on protection due to my fantastic Fort Knox, well, let's use and abuse of marketing.
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Another anti-virus vendor caught cheating in independent tests
https://grahamcluley.com/2015/05/anti-virus-cheating-independent-tests/
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Qihoo has now decided to stop testing
And we decided to stop accepting cheating :)
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It is very simple.

Any a/v is a major program given system-wide privileges; almost all other programs are limited in their access to Windows files, other program files, user files, etc.,.

Any a/v program must be completely trustworthy and not violate user confidentiality in any way shape or form; enterprise deployment cannot be compromised.

IMO, Qihoo is not trustworthy anymore.  And now it is Tencent caught doing the same thing.  The fact both were found to provide less protection outside the testing environment is telling.  It is not aggressive marketing at all.  It is really something else.
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Tencent also found now to have "rigged" the tests and read why unethical behavior by AV firms can no longer be tolerated:
http://www.amtso.org/PR20150506

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Tencent also found now to have "rigged" the tests and read why unethical behavior by AV firms can no longer be tolerated:
http://www.amtso.org/PR20150506

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Unfortunately this sort of thing doesn't get down to user level, but beeping them off the testing removes the false impression of a good level of user protection and not heavy on resources, etc. Two things which many use as the stand point for choosing their AV, integrity isn't on the list of tests ;D
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