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« on: May 06, 2015, 08:56:15 AM »
Is it prohibited for the moderators (or admins) in most forums or games (Minecraft, etc.) to impose inappropriate punishment (or consequences) to the person who commits slight violation of the rules for the first time EXCEPT to the cybercriminals? (It also include permanent bans to minors who slightly broke the rules)
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 09:08:14 AM »
Rules and punishment would vary from one forum to another, some aren't as tolerant as others.

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 09:11:45 AM »
Rules and punishment would vary from one forum to another, some aren't as tolerant as others.
That would be right. What will the person do if he/she is permanently banned?

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 09:36:03 AM »
Rules and punishment would vary from one forum to another, some aren't as tolerant as others.
That would be right. What will the person do if he/she is permanently banned?
Not much you can do.  You've an issue at another forum?  Or are you looking for avast user forum rules here?
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 10:15:29 AM »
Rules and punishment would vary from one forum to another, some aren't as tolerant as others.
That would be right. What will the person do if he/she is permanently banned?
Nothing, if it's a permanent ban then it cant be as slight as you have stated :-\ you need to thoroughly read the rules of any forum you are a part of as certain things have zero tolerance.

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2015, 06:29:59 AM »
Rules and punishment would vary from one forum to another, some aren't as tolerant as others.
That would be right. What will the person do if he/she is permanently banned?
Nothing, if it's a permanent ban then it cant be as slight as you have stated :-\ you need to thoroughly read the rules of any forum you are a part of as certain things have zero tolerance.
That's harsh, but what if the so-called (wrongly issued) permanent ban was issued to the person?

OP: I got banned from Minecraft Forum. :(
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2015, 06:31:23 AM »
Will it be illegal to get around the ban by the use of alt account as a "successor" of my account?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 06:37:36 AM by MatthewGo707 »

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2015, 06:41:21 AM »
The only forum where my account was permanently banned was minecraftforum.net (Minecraft Forum)

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 03:52:11 PM »
Will it be illegal to get around the ban by the use of alt account as a "successor" of my account?

The question is too generic to give a specific answer.

It would depend on A) the forum, B) the reason you were banned to start with (should be in the ban info, depends on forum, etc.) and C) if the reason was considered serious enough. Then creating a new account to circumvent the ban would be considered in the same way, especially if you kept on the same subject matter that the original ban was for.

If all of the above were negative, then I would guess that you would be banned again.

If however, you felt this was in error (not impossible) you would have to create a new account to query/resolve it.

As you can see too many permutations for a generic question.
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2015, 08:47:40 AM »
Will it be illegal to get around the ban by the use of alt account as a "successor" of my account?

The question is too generic to give a specific answer.

It would depend on A) the forum, B) the reason you were banned to start with (should be in the ban info, depends on forum, etc.) and C) if the reason was considered serious enough. Then creating a new account to circumvent the ban would be considered in the same way, especially if you kept on the same subject matter that the original ban was for.

If all of the above were negative, then I would guess that you would be banned again.

If however, you felt this was in error (not impossible) you would have to create a new account to query/resolve it.

As you can see too many permutations for a generic question.
What if the newly-created account (used to resolve the issue) is instantly banned?

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2015, 03:28:21 PM »
Will it be illegal to get around the ban by the use of alt account as a "successor" of my account?

The question is too generic to give a specific answer.

It would depend on A) the forum, B) the reason you were banned to start with (should be in the ban info, depends on forum, etc.) and C) if the reason was considered serious enough. Then creating a new account to circumvent the ban would be considered in the same way, especially if you kept on the same subject matter that the original ban was for.

If all of the above were negative, then I would guess that you would be banned again.

If however, you felt this was in error (not impossible) you would have to create a new account to query/resolve it.

As you can see too many permutations for a generic question.
What if the newly-created account (used to resolve the issue) is instantly banned?

Again too generic a question - as A) we don't know what the initial ban was for and B) only rarely would the original ban be so great would the creation of a new account also be banned.

That said I don't think that this ban would be immediate/automatic as it takes some serious processing to do this. Or it also depends on the original ban conditions user name, email address and or IP address, if you were to reuse any of these it would be blocked based on the original ban conditions.

But in all honesty talking in these forums about a ban in another forum is never going to resolve that issue, different rules, different forum software, etc. etc.
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2015, 03:53:06 PM »
@MatthewGo707

You could mail moderation of that forum where you were banned and repent.
Ask them to give you another chance as you are only human and can change and let them consider to lift the ban.
That is all you could do. Not use another nick or account as your logs and style will give you away.

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2015, 05:34:15 AM »
@MatthewGo707

You could mail moderation of that forum where you were banned and repent.
Ask them to give you another chance as you are only human and can change and let them consider to lift the ban.
That is all you could do. Not use another nick or account as your logs and style will give you away.

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Unfortunately, the Minecraft Forum administrator denied my appeal (2 times) despite showing clear proof that the so-called permanent ban was a biggest mistake. I am no longer allowed there to send PMs to users, report posts (this was included since one violator reported the moderator's post, assuming he commited the so-called staff impersonation), post in community, vote polls, etc. Then I may suppose that the permanent ban is NOT a recommended sanction but a warning, due to its unjust nature.

There are the admin's remarks:
=First appeal: "Your post did not contribute anything"
=Second appeal: "I already denied your appeal"
=Third appeal: You were told many times that your behavior on this forum was unacceptable yet you continued. The ban will not be lifted at this time"
=Fourth appeal: "You were given multiple opportunities to change your behavior on the forum. You will not be unbanned at this time."

Note: First and second appeal is from my warning for spamming (now expired since Thursday (March 26, 2015))
Note: Third and fourth appeal is from permanent bans (which is highly unjust and not recommended)

What should I do now, since all of my appeals is denied despite being serious and remorseful?
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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015, 05:53:14 AM »
Now I almost became a victim of being permanently banned even though it is just minor...  >:(

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Re: Off-topic question
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015, 08:04:43 AM »
I now feel paranoid that my account in Minecraft Forum was banned for the first time.