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Offline ehmen

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2015, 07:21:12 PM »
For my computer, creating a drive image would take many hours every time.

You won't believe the hassle if you ever have to restore back to a certain date - just setting browsers, email programs, customisations, ad-ons, etc. etc.. A bad windows update comes to mind.
I create restore points very often as a system backup option if needed.

Its your system and your choice, but what I can't fathom is why all of these questions you have been asking and then trusting to luck if you ever get hit.
You misunderstood what I said, I only said general viruses and malware don't concern me for the purposes of this question regarding spyware going into and then coming from an email account to my computer.
But in general, I'm VERY concerned, cautious and careful to prevent viruses and malware, which is why I use the programs below (Avast, Malwarebytes Anti-malware & anti-exploit, SuperAntiSpyware, MCshield and WinPatrol). In addition to those, I use Ccleaner very often and AdwCleaner periodically. I also disabled the Flash plugin on Chrome, only to be enabled when absolutely needed (good thing Chrome finally removed the Java plugin, not that I'd use it anyway).
Obviously I try to keep safe browsing habits as well.
It is precisely due to caution I generally exercise, that I got concerned when the above-discussed question about the email spyware occurred to me, thus I was focusing only on that in this thread (at least till now).
I'd love to hear your suggestions if you think I should add anything to the list.
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2015, 09:17:10 PM »
For my computer, creating a drive image would take many hours every time.

You won't believe the hassle if you ever have to restore back to a certain date - just setting browsers, email programs, customisations, ad-ons, etc. etc.. A bad windows update comes to mind.
I create restore points very often as a system backup option if needed.

Its your system and your choice, but what I can't fathom is why all of these questions you have been asking and then trusting to luck if you ever get hit.
You misunderstood what I said, I only said general viruses and malware don't concern me for the purposes of this question regarding spyware going into and then coming from an email account to my computer.
But in general, I'm VERY concerned, cautious and careful to prevent viruses and malware, which is why I use the programs below (Avast, Malwarebytes Anti-malware & anti-exploit, SuperAntiSpyware, MCshield and WinPatrol). In addition to those, I use Ccleaner very often and AdwCleaner periodically. I also disabled the Flash plugin on Chrome, only to be enabled when absolutely needed (good thing Chrome finally removed the Java plugin, not that I'd use it anyway).
Obviously I try to keep safe browsing habits as well.
It is precisely due to caution I generally exercise, that I got concerned when the above-discussed question about the email spyware occurred to me, thus I was focusing only on that in this thread (at least till now).
I'd love to hear your suggestions if you think I should add anything to the list.
If you have a hardware failure, that restore point would be totally useless. Your computer your choice.
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2015, 09:44:13 PM »
Lets see how you feel after your first serious issue where you have to start from scratch.

As I said I can't understand why with the questions you asked before and your stating "But in general, I'm VERY concerned, cautious and careful to prevent viruses and malware," why you wouldn't convert this caution into action and have a robust Backup and Recovery strategy.

As Bob mentions System Restore won't give you that as it isn't a full backup, it doesn't cover everything.
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2015, 10:45:52 PM »
Lets see how you feel after your first serious issue where you have to start from scratch.

As I said I can't understand why with the questions you asked before and your stating "But in general, I'm VERY concerned, cautious and careful to prevent viruses and malware," why you wouldn't convert this caution into action and have a robust Backup and Recovery strategy.

As Bob mentions System Restore won't give you that as it isn't a full backup, it doesn't cover everything.
System Restore also doesn't help if you suffer from a hard drive failure as I once did.
Sometimes one only learns things the hard way.... :)
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2015, 12:29:40 AM »
How would you recommend I create a system image when Vista Home Premium doesn't have that capability (it only backs up files)? Is there a 3rd party program you'd suggest?

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2015, 12:33:59 AM »
How would you recommend I create a system image when Vista Home Premium doesn't have that capability (it only backs up files)? Is there a 3rd party program you'd suggest?
Here is one way:
http://www.easeus.com/disk-copy/disk-clone.htm
I'm sure doing a search for "vista disk imaging software" will bring up many more. :)
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2015, 12:49:25 AM »
I'm sure doing a search for "vista disk imaging software" will bring up many more. :)
Indeed it has, but I wanted to get the program you recommend, since you've demonstrated how strongly you feel (rightfully so) about cloning the disk image.

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2015, 01:01:19 AM »
I'm sure doing a search for "vista disk imaging software" will bring up many more. :)
Indeed it has, but I wanted to get the program you recommend, since you've demonstrated how strongly you feel (rightfully so) about cloning the disk image.
That's why I gave you a link to the one I know and have used. In case you wanted something else, I gave you a hint at finding an alternative. :)
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2015, 01:33:42 AM »
Thank you  ;)

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2015, 01:58:59 AM »
Thank you  ;)
You're welcome.
I'm still not finished with this project and it's taken over 2 full days:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=28748.msg1220137#msg1220137
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2015, 06:26:09 AM »
I'm still not finished with this project and it's taken over 2 full days:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=28748.msg1220137#msg1220137
Why isn't just installing the latest version of the updates enough? Aren't most of the updates just updated updates (no pun intended) on the previous ones from the previous patch Tuesday? Also, you're installing all those updates just in case the upgrade to Windows 10 fails?

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »
I'm still not finished with this project and it's taken over 2 full days:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=28748.msg1220137#msg1220137
Why isn't just installing the latest version of the updates enough? Aren't most of the updates just updated updates (no pun intended) on the previous ones from the previous patch Tuesday? Also, you're installing all those updates just in case the upgrade to Windows 10 fails?
I'm updating it to make sure I have the best chance not to have a problem when the update to Windows 10 happens.
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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2015, 10:34:47 PM »
Why isn't just installing the latest version of the updates enough?

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2015, 12:15:54 AM »
ehmen, the 2 backup programs I use are Aomei Backupper and Snapshot, both very easy to use.

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Re: Infect account simply by logging in?
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2015, 12:41:58 AM »
ehmen, the 2 backup programs I use are Aomei Backupper and Snapshot, both very easy to use.
Thanks.