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Norton Utilities 2002
« on: November 15, 2005, 10:03:48 PM »
I have Norton Utilities 2002 in my CD "collection" and I've used it 2 years ago in my old PC with Win98SE. I want to ask is it not too old to use with WinXP SP2 (of course it should be updated via live update), is it worth to use it, and will it work with my beloved avast! ?  :-\ Thanks!  ;)

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2005, 10:26:05 PM »
I think you won't have trouble.
Norton Speed Disk had great improvements since then. The others, well, a bit.
They won't conflict with avast! if you avoid installing NAV.
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2005, 10:31:05 PM »
Maybe I'll give a try, as it's retail version... But I'm afraid of name NORTON... Sounds like hell for me!  ;D

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2005, 10:34:08 PM »
Maybe I'll give a try, as it's retail version... But I'm afraid of name NORTON... Sounds like hell for me!  ;D
I know you're joking. Some utilities are very good... Not all Symantec products are bad.
Norton Ghost is an excelent backup.
Norton GoBack doesn't have any competitor in the market.  8)
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2005, 01:19:43 AM »
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Norton GoBack doesn't have any competitor in the market.
And without Norton GoBack, some of us would be doing a lot of FORMAT;D ;D
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2005, 01:24:01 AM »
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Norton GoBack doesn't have any competitor in the market.
And without Norton GoBack, some of us would be doing a lot of FORMAT;D ;D
;D  ;D
Yes, the most I do is s*it... So, GoBack saved me a lot of times and will continue there. I'm tired of testing and regreting to have tested  ;D
It's a pity that some things in life do not have a GoBack buttom  ;)
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2005, 10:35:12 PM »
Norton GO BACK is a good program i just hate their antivirus product. It makes me wonder though if most of symantec's products not all are named Norton than why not change their name to Norton?

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2005, 01:00:54 AM »
I think the Norton utilities of the 2002 era was an excellent product, I'm not so sure about later versions though.

I much perfer the regular (weekly) imaging of my HDDs/Partitions and daily back-up of volatile data files (.doc, .xls, email folders, etc.) and I use Drive Image for that, but guess what Symantec bought that from PowerQuest, bummer.

Now they have taken the supposed best bits from Norton Ghost, Drive Image and cobbled them together to produce Norton Ghost 9 (now version 10). Some how I doubt I will be upgrading to the latest one from Symantec/Norton, certainly not while drive image 7 does the business. I just have this aversion to Norton, largely due to NAV and I just get the shivers that other products could be like it ;D

Unreasonable perhaps, I just find it hard to trust my computer to a company that I feel got it so wrong with NAV.
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2005, 05:03:39 AM »
I liked Norton utilities 2002 but... no updates available. It left the same "as it was" in my CD. So... Norton System Works 2005 is here.  ;D Without NAV of course. I like go, turned my system restore of as seems this one does it's job better.

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2005, 01:45:01 PM »
I would not recommend using it on Windows XP especially a dated version like that, Norton WinDoctor fixes can cause more problem then it is worth, Norton Disk Doctor does nothing Chkdsk does not, Windows XP comes with System Restore which is what GoBack is, Norton AntiVirus is a Dog use Avast and Diskeeper is a better defragmenter then Speeddisk. IMO Norton Utilities are a waste of time. The last time I recommended them was back in DOS 6.22. Symantec products have become massive bloatware. Just bizarre uninstall issues with NAV is enough reason I would never recommend them to anyone.

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2005, 03:06:37 PM »
Hi Mastertech
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Windows XP comes with System Restore which is what GoBack is
The biggest difference between System Restore and Goback is :
Norton GoBack always works (98%) :)
Systen Restore usually doesn't work when you need it most. (70%) :(
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2005, 04:37:23 PM »
Mastertech, you are right in some way...  :-\ I've messed all my system with this peace of sh**  :-\ Clean install - avast and Diskeeper Pro as two days before!  ;D

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2005, 02:17:43 PM »
Windows XP comes with System Restore which is what GoBack is
You don't know what you're talking or you never tested GoBack.
Definetively, it's not the same, neither close one of the other.
GoBack works. System Restore just use disk space...  :P
The other utilities have similar. GoBack does not have a similar one.
Norton WinDoctor never brings me trouble.
There are better defragmenters than Norton Speed Disk. No one (that I've found) has the possibility to configure which files you want in which part of the HDD (or partition): first, at the end, end of the disk, etc.

Norton Utilities aren't a waste of time, imo.
But, for sure, Symantec products have become bloatware, specially NAV does not work as we want...
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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2005, 02:29:39 PM »
 ::) System Restore Works, you set a restore point and you can roll back to that point. I've never had a problem with, it works fine especially considering the majority of times if at all you just need to roll back a driver. System Restore works. If you have to keep rolling back your system something else is seriously wrong or you are completely careless. I have four computers and out of them I have had to roll exactly one back in 4 years due to a mouse driver.

Windoctor can "fix" things by linking them to the wrong file.

Speed Disk is incredibly slow.

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Re: Norton Utilities 2002
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2005, 02:52:56 PM »
This exactly what Tech is saying (not wishing to put words in his mouth) system restore isn't good for heavy duty restore tasks, hell even MS say the same.

There are many, many reasons why a System Restore may fail. For example, see "Why are previous restore points not working?" in the "Troubleshooting" section of this official Microsoft page:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx

There's lots more on that page that's worth reading too. Note especially the sections on  "What should I do if System Restore does not work?"; "Why are my restore points missing or deleted?"; "Why does the System Restore Wizard lockup?"; and so on. Just a few minutes on that page ought to convince just about anyone that System Restore is not intended for heavy-duty system protection!

You personally may not have had any problems with system restore, neither have I, but many others have (obviously enough for MS to have a page about it), there are even examples of people having problems system restore failing on these forums that I remember.

I have it totally disabled and why is that because if it can't be relied upon 100% as MS says then I will look for other solutions. I went for regular partition images that take minutes to create and restore, If I'm going to try something that I don't want to have a gap to my last weekly image, I would create a new on. Tech has chosen GoBack as his alternative to system restore.
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