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Offline Daffy

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Keyloggers
« on: December 02, 2005, 04:29:45 PM »
Will "Avast Home" protect against any keyloggers ???

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2005, 04:48:11 PM »
Yes. :P
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2005, 04:51:13 PM »
Great :)

Thank you.


Which one on the picture, is you  ;D
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2005, 10:43:03 PM »
I don't think this is true.

I just got Avast, and it did NOT find a keylogger in my system, and it should have IMO.

The file in question was h@tkeysh@@k.dll in system32 directory.


I was just about to post about this, but I found this thread...

Even if I click on the file itself, and tell avast to scan it, it comes back with infected:0.


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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2005, 11:08:36 PM »
You can submit the file to virus@avast.com .
We generally don't detect "legal" keyloggers - i.e. regular programs (with EULA) whose purpose is keylogging (e.g. for parental control).

I don't know if this is the case though...
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2005, 11:21:04 PM »
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Description created: Nov. 6, 2000 12:15:19 PM GMT -0800]Description created: Nov. 6, 2000 12:15:19 PM GMT -0800

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ_HOTKEYHOOK
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2005, 11:55:13 PM »
You can submit the file to virus@avast.com .
We generally don't detect "legal" keyloggers - i.e. regular programs (with EULA) whose purpose is keylogging (e.g. for parental control).

I don't know if this is the case though...
Hmm, and how can any program determine if it was put there legally or not?
At the very least, it should throw up a warning saying a keylogger has been detected, and if I wish to take action.

I guess the solution for parents is to have a avast 'Parental control' feature, and password protect that, and show keyloggers in that area?

That way,  junior won't know they are being spied upon.  ;D

Oh, and if I submit the file to that e-mail address, should I zip or rar it up first?


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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2005, 12:59:38 AM »
Oh, and if I submit the file to that e-mail address, should I zip or rar it up first?
It won't be bad if you do so...
You can use a password and inform this password in the email body  ;)
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2005, 02:00:50 AM »
ok, I sent it.

Do I get a reply, or is it a canned message?  ;)


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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2005, 12:05:01 PM »
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Hmm, and how can any program determine if it was put there legally or not?
At the very least, it should throw up a warning saying a keylogger has been detected, and if I wish to take action.
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And how can I determine if it´s legally or not.  ??? I´m not an expert.

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2005, 12:25:04 PM »
There are only two situations where you would find a keylogger which was installed 'legally': on a private computer where you installed it yourself to monitor another user (or another user installed it to monitor you!), or on a work computer where an employer has installed it to monitor you. (Both instances may not be so 'legal', of course- monitoring the kids may not be a problem, but monitoring your spouse or employees without permission is another kettle of fish.)

The keylogger mentioned by Eltoran is certainly not anything legitimate- it's part of a Trojan horse.
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2005, 12:26:58 PM »
Do I get a reply, or is it a canned message?  ;)
Generally, you got the solution  ;)
They don't use robots (canned messages) and they answer (manually, human made) only if the subject requires.
Most probably, you won't get a answer from them, I say, by email.
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2005, 12:44:55 PM »
I have no intencions to install a keylogger. I had a suspicion, that there maybe was a keylogger installed on my computer.

I did numerous scans whit almost every spyremover programs i could think off.
Nothing found.

After that i scanned whit Avast. Nothing found.

Then I got curious. Did Avast Home protect against keyloggers, and I posted the tread

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2005, 12:48:52 PM »
Other 'advanced' check for it:
Control Panel > System > Hardware > Dispositives > Keyboard
Right click and check Properties
Driver tab
Details
Post a screenshot of that window or list here the contents.
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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2005, 01:38:26 PM »
Hi Daffy,

I was just mentioning the legitimate(ish) reasons for using keyloggers in answer to your question:

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And how can I determine if it´s legally or not.

Obviously, if you didn't put it there, it's not something you want to keep. No implication that you might be thinking about installing one was intended.

If you suspect that you might have been infected by a keylogger as a result of spyware activity, avast! will detect many, but it's also worth running the usually spyware scans, Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy, X-Cleaner Free, and MS Anti-Spyware. (Or investing in Webroot, Spyware Doctor, Pest Patrol ot Trend Micro Anti-Spyware etc.)
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