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Avast Chrome updating alert
« on: August 13, 2015, 06:03:58 PM »
The attached image shows my normal Chrome updating file, which Avast alerts as being suspect and says that globally it is unheard of.

Why is it that this perfectly valid and regular Chrome update file is being treated like a threat ?
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 06:19:55 PM »
it is a warning of a new file ..... if you trust it, select action to take at the bottom


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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 08:01:44 PM »
it is a warning of a new file ..... if you trust it, select action to take at the bottom

I have to trust it. It is the Chrome updater file. If it is blocked. I get no browser update.

Surely Avast can easily ascertain that this file is valid and put it on their white list.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 08:13:47 PM »
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Surely Avast can easily ascertain that this file is valid and put it on their white list.
yes but since it is new they have to get the new file first, so this warning will go away
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arent you happy about avast warning you about new files? ..... what if it was new malware and you got no warning, would you be happy then?


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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 08:40:03 PM »

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yes but since it is new they have to get the new file first, so this warning will go away
Thank you, of course I understand this procedure.

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arent you happy about avast warning you about new files? ..... what if it was new malware and you got no warning, would you be happy then?
No need for this terse comment. My Chrome was updated to version 44.0.2403.155 as shown on the alert by this new file. So whilst Avast and the world are in the dark about this Chrome updater file, my Chrome is now bang up-to-date.

Google issued the following bulletin concerning the file in question :-
"Stable Channel Update
The stable channel has been updated to 44.0.2403.155 for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

Krishna Govind
Google Chrome"
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 08:56:21 PM »
under actions to take ... depending on what you and other select it will get whitelisted or blacklisted

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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 10:46:56 PM »
Well if you read the image that you posted it will tell you why it arrived at the conclusion that it was considered 'Suspicious' (File Reputation) and not a virus as such.

This file would have only been released, so there would be little history behind it, I also doubt that the file was digitally signed or I believe it would have gone through. If avast also undertook running it to see what it does, some of the actions of an update file could appear suspect.

Again avast isn't making a cast iron 'this is malicious' it is giving a recommendation and allowing you to override it. Given what you know about this being an expected chrome update, you should be able to safely make that determination.

There is also nothing to stop you submitting the file to avast for analysis as an FP.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2015, 07:45:40 PM »
Thanks everybody.

Next time Google Chrome updates and the Avast alert shows, I will take some of the actions you propose. This particular update only occurs when there is a version update, normal automatic browser updates occur every day without any problem.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2015, 09:00:40 AM »
it is a warning of a new file ..... if you trust it, select action to take at the bottom

Well I waited and here it came again. I selected action and found it was no use at all  except to continue the download.

So I  suppose I will have to wait until Avast  and the rest of the world catch up  with Google`s progressive updates.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2015, 03:46:21 PM »
it is a warning of a new file ..... if you trust it, select action to take at the bottom

Well I waited and here it came again. I selected action and found it was no use at all  except to continue the download.

So I  suppose I will have to wait until Avast  and the rest of the world catch up  with Google`s progressive updates.


Well it is hardly progressive, if they digitally signed that update file it should get through unmolested.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2015, 12:22:54 PM »

Well it is hardly progressive, if they digitally signed that update file it should get through unmolested.

I find it incredible that a Goliath like Google can issue perfectly valid update files not digitally signed, but nobody is perfect and I guess that is the way the cookie crumbles.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2015, 03:54:20 PM »

Well it is hardly progressive, if they digitally signed that update file it should get through unmolested.

I find it incredible that a Goliath like Google can issue perfectly valid update files not digitally signed, but nobody is perfect and I guess that is the way the cookie crumbles.

The problem being there are thousands upon thousands of new malware variants created every day, so they too have no or little history when they first arrive on the scene. So they are going to receive more attention and in this case that has only escalated it to Suspicious not 100% sure malware. So the user does have a decision to make.

Looking at your image again there is something that I find suspicious - that is the use of C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe to download and handle the update.

If you do a search of the viruses and worms forum for C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe and you will see just how often this file is misused to download malware.
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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 05:23:41 PM »
I am receiving the same alert from Avast.   But in my case, when I examine my Chrome browser, Google tells me it is up to date.    So why would I trust this suspicious file that seemingly wants to update an up to date system?

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Re: Avast Chrome updating alert
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2015, 04:24:42 PM »
I have been experiencing the same issue for several months. However, I think it is only on my WinXP laptop and not my Win7 tower.

Perhaps it has something to do with fading support for WinXP. Just guessing.

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