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How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« on: February 04, 2016, 01:30:35 PM »
So, is there a way to test if Secure VM in avast! is actually working and not just showing like it is while in reality it's not functioning? I'm asking this because I have a really weird feeling about Secure VM on my Windows 10 64bit installation...
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 01:51:16 PM »
So, is there a way to test if Secure VM in avast! is actually working and not just showing like it is while in reality it's not functioning?
I'm also interested in an answer here.
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 04:06:12 PM »
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2016, 05:05:38 PM »
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Had Option to install it when I did Modify components after restart from update from 11.1.2245 to 11.1.2253, Restarted again, and so far don't see virtualbox in task manager, so not sure if NG is working on mine or not.

Avast Virtualbox service now showing in task manager, wasn't yesterday, so maybe some progress
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2016, 06:11:18 PM »
I'm also asking because NG tool didn't show up like it used to (and generated a VM image). It's just weird.
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 11:36:58 PM »
C'mon, we have potentially dud DeepScreen here and no one gives a damn about it? WTF is going on with avast! lately!?
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 01:52:12 AM »
So, is there a way to test if Secure VM in avast! is actually working and not just showing like it is while in reality it's not functioning? I'm asking this because I have a really weird feeling about Secure VM on my Windows 10 64bit installation...


Bug in W10 installation.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=182468.msg1289110#msg1289110
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 07:29:15 AM »
That's not true. It doesn't "not install it". It gives user impression that it has installed it, but in the end, it doesn't function at all. I don't think even basic DeepScreen works. No way those 1 second DeepScreen analysis even do anything. I think they just let the sample run without ANY analysis.
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 11:54:45 PM »
Still no response...  ::)
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 08:40:12 AM »
Hi, Secure VM can be tested by executing some test commands:

"ngtool.exe isready"  - will tell you if initial snapshot is in correct state. As NG is installed asynchronously by Avast installer, this command could fail if launched immediately after finishing Avast installation. Avast installer is not waiting for NG to finish its installation process, it only starts the NG installation.

"ngtool.exe exec pool cmd.exe" - will launch VM instance with cmd.exe running inside, this will work only if NG initial snapshot is in correct state


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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 03:54:41 PM »
I tried these commands on Windows 7 SP1, and the result indicated that it is not working.  I do have avastvboxsvc.exe running in services.
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 04:02:10 PM »
I tried these commands on Windows 7 SP1, and the result indicated that it is not working.  I do have avastvboxsvc.exe running in services.

What was exact error code from "ngtool isready"

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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 05:38:12 PM »
error: NG machines are *NOT* ready to use, error: 0x00000032

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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 11:06:55 PM »
Question is, does DeepScreen WITHOUT Secure VM even work? Those 1 second finished analysis look weird.

I currently don't have avast! installed to test, but it just doesn't feel right.
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Re: How to test if Secure VM is actually working?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 11:31:59 PM »
Question is, does DeepScreen WITHOUT Secure VM even work? Those 1 second finished analysis look weird.

I currently don't have avast! installed to test, but it just doesn't feel right.

For obvious reasons I can't have NG installed on this XP system and recently (on this version) I have had a DeepScreen intervention and it took several seconds to complete its analysis.

I don't know if this is just because it is an XP system and avast have to do something different on systems without NG in order for DeepScreen to be able to run.
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