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Offline GreggH

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2016, 03:46:18 PM »
+ Silent Update process is ready
What is it?
Not good.... update to 2257 or update to SafeZone (one or another) changed my previous settings of Ask if there is a new Update to Automatically Update. Had I not read here about this, I would not have checked until after the first "blind" update and would have been again ticked off that Avast! had seen fit to ignore my preferences and override with their choices. As other have said.... this is my machine. Let me do the deciding... don't you decide for me. If you want, tell me what you want, and ask me if I want that, but do NOT do it yourself without telling me.
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Will be described in final release notes. Shortly, for future versions of Avast we would like that Avast updates automatically, silently by default. Previous update settings will be preserved.

Given the adverse user reaction of the silent (background) installation of the SafeZone Browser. I would be very wary about taking that step, you only have to browse the forums to see the anger about this.

We have also seen the reaction forums in the past, to forced program updates from old avast versions - even when updates were set to Manual Update.

What is the urgency/reason to even contemplate silent program updates.

Personally I hate forced program updates in any program, it is my system and I would like to control what happens on it and when.

We should do better communication about SafeZone Browser launch.

Silent option will be default. If you decide to change it to manual, we gonna keep this change for future releases.
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In all seriousness though, as I asked earlier:
What is the urgency/reason/benefit to even contemplate silent program updates ?

For most people they won't like that as we have seen in the past. But my major concern is these updates invariably occur shortly after boot (seen instup.exe in task manager lots and it is a bit of a hog) for those that shutdown systems at night. There really has to be a reasonable delay after boot to let the system settle down.

Also if these silent updates come in and as it is now program updates require a reboot, how will this requirement be handled or will there not be a reboot requirement ?

In a past we used to release new version each 3-4 version per year. Newly, we would like to release new version every month. Its inconvenient to ask for reboot so often so thats why silent updates are introduced. This brings us to opportunity to react on issues in a shorter time.

About reboot. Good point, update should be planned not immediately after reboot. To apply all the changes update requires reboot and there will be reboot request after certaion amount of time without reboot which is remotely configurable.
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2016, 03:54:09 PM »
@ hectic-mmv,
Update as often as you need too but, give me the right to decide when that update will happen.
Notify me of a needed update. Since this is my computer and I know my workflow,
I should be the one who decides when that update will happen.

Hi Bob,

yes we will respect your choice. For new installations and existing installations with the default value we will set new default - Automatic updates. If you don't like automatic updates you can turn them off. This change is aimed at non-technical users who don't want to bother with updating.

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2016, 04:09:46 PM »
@ hectic-mmv,
Update as often as you need too but, give me the right to decide when that update will happen.
Notify me of a needed update. Since this is my computer and I know my workflow,
I should be the one who decides when that update will happen.

Hi Bob,

yes we will respect your choice. For new installations and existing installations with the default value we will set new default - Automatic updates. If you don't like automatic updates you can turn them off. This change is aimed at non-technical users who don't want to bother with updating.

It shouldn't be a case of turning off Automatic Updates, we still like to be notified 'Ask when an update is available', but take no action.

That said we have seen this setting overridden, usually on a release of a beta (when you are on the beta stream). We have also seen instances on the forums where program updates have occurred even when updates are set to Manual.

User set options on the Program Update shouldn't be overridden.

Previously we have had Programs set to Notify
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2016, 05:13:08 PM »
@ hectic-mmv,
Update as often as you need too but, give me the right to decide when that update will happen.
Notify me of a needed update. Since this is my computer and I know my workflow,
I should be the one who decides when that update will happen.

Hi Bob,

yes we will respect your choice. For new installations and existing installations with the default value we will set new default - Automatic updates. If you don't like automatic updates you can turn them off. This change is aimed at non-technical users who don't want to bother with updating.
Thank you Martin,
I agree that auto updates are the safest for those that never pay attention. I also like the choices made available
for those of us that want it our way. :)
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2016, 05:16:16 PM »
Hi,
 yes we will respect the user's choice and all current options will stay..

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2016, 06:34:12 PM »
I'm not a beta tester but I'm very keen to ensure that I get to manually install (over the top) the next stable release. This is because I want to ensure (using the custom install) that NG isn't installed, my Win 10 system probably meets the minimum requirements but I don't think it's up to it. My program update setting is never (just changed from 'let me know'), does this mean that the automatic update won't be installed or does the 'preserve all settings' commitment only apply to all other settings after the automatic update has taken place?

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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2016, 10:28:27 AM »
SafeZone browser isn't as safe as it should be, more in: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=184885.0
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Re: NEW: RC release 11.2.2257 is out
« Reply #52 on: March 30, 2016, 10:35:01 AM »
All the settings yuo adjusted are preserved.