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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #60 on: April 12, 2016, 01:30:47 PM »
She told me in no uncertain terms to "Get that piece of Crap AVAST of my computer!!" - and I did. Replaced by AVG Free.

well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...

And what makes you say that? E.g. for the past about 6 months AVG has beat Avast in AV-Comparatives "Real-World Protection Tests". I don't mean to turn this into a "best AV war", I just hope that people would write explanations if claiming something.

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2016, 02:42:38 PM »
She told me in no uncertain terms to "Get that piece of Crap AVAST of my computer!!" - and I did. Replaced by AVG Free.

well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...

And what makes you say that? E.g. for the past about 6 months AVG has beat Avast in AV-Comparatives "Real-World Protection Tests". I don't mean to turn this into a "best AV war", I just hope that people would write explanations if claiming something.
Thats Ok.But it is the Privacy issue of AVG FREE.
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2016, 02:46:53 PM »
She told me in no uncertain terms to "Get that piece of Crap AVAST of my computer!!" - and I did. Replaced by AVG Free.

well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...

And what makes you say that? E.g. for the past about 6 months AVG has beat Avast in AV-Comparatives "Real-World Protection Tests". I don't mean to turn this into a "best AV war", I just hope that people would write explanations if claiming something.
Thats Ok.But it is the Privacy issue of AVG FREE.
??? ??? What privacy issue ??? ???
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2016, 02:50:18 PM »
She told me in no uncertain terms to "Get that piece of Crap AVAST of my computer!!" - and I did. Replaced by AVG Free.

well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...

And what makes you say that? E.g. for the past about 6 months AVG has beat Avast in AV-Comparatives "Real-World Protection Tests". I don't mean to turn this into a "best AV war", I just hope that people would write explanations if claiming something.
Thats Ok.But it is the Privacy issue of AVG FREE.
??? ??? What privacy issue ??? ???

Read their privacy policy :)
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2016, 03:04:09 PM »
Not much different than any others. Certainly not something alarming.
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2016, 03:12:30 PM »
well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...
which is clear example of 'haste' reaction

Why that? I used AVG for several years. Sometimes I had problems, sometimes not. Same as here. Their forum was crap.

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2016, 03:14:53 PM »
well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...
which is clear example of 'haste' reaction

Why that? I used AVG for several years. Sometimes I had problems, sometimes not. Same as here. Their forum was crap.
The help offered in the forum is certainly one advantage that Avast currently has over all others. :)
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2016, 03:33:53 PM »
well I'm pretty sure you didn't replace it with better product ...
which is clear example of 'haste' reaction

Why that? I used AVG for several years. Sometimes I had problems, sometimes not. Same as here. Their forum was crap.
The help offered in the forum is certainly one advantage that Avast currently has over all others. :)

No doubt there.........the SuperPosters/Evangilists here are 2nd to none.........problem is they have been propping up Avast for years.

On "alternative" side (as opposed to AVG...IMHO yuck..........if you are on W10 and "good" about what you do then Defender is fine......if not then Avira FREE......want to pay $$ then Kaspersky.
However, like others will mention you need more than just "A/V"......augment with MBAM & MBAE, CrypoPrevent & WinPatrol........all work well together and you should have a nice "shield" that doesn't impact PC very much and runs clean for updates, risk, etc. The above "suite" is not expensive either.

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2016, 03:35:08 PM »
I think it's better to stick to the main topic and not talk about AVG etc.
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2016, 03:37:30 PM »
I think it's better to stick to the main topic and not talk about AVG etc.

Good point....noted.

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2016, 04:17:10 PM »
Now I have read all the posts in this topic. For me as an ordinary user of the Avast pro antivirus it makes me concerned. I am not an IT technician I can´t even say I´m good with computers. I surf the Web, sends e-mails, do my banking bussines and some other purchases. I started some years ago with the free version and then moved to the paid pro antivirus version. Most of the talk here is about technical stuff that I don´t understand. So for a user like me all of this is very confusing. What did I want when I started using Avast ? I wanted an easily managed software that would keep my computer safe. Now I don´t know if I got that.
But when I read the posts it seems not to be the case. I have 344 days left of my subscription but it is not a lot of ated so maybe it´s better to take the loss and move to a moore reliable product.
Is your computer infected ??? I highly doubt it. That means you and Avast are still doing things right and your computer is as safe as I know mine is.
There are things that I think Avast needs to change but, I still have confidence that it's keeping my systems safe.
I have the patience and the confidence in Vlc to stick around and see what changes for the better are planned.

Let me add my reassurance to Bob's. Alongside what I said in my earlier post, Avast Free 11.2.2261 is running like a dream on my Atom Netbook, including SafeZone. Maybe things are looking up. I just don't yet again have confidence to give a blanket Avast recommendation to anyone who asks.
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2016, 05:24:14 PM »
Since 2012 Microsoft urges users to disable the gadgets platform but avast! still offers its own gadget in the setup. Helloooooooo?  ::)

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2016, 05:30:56 PM »
I only have avast (free cloud) on a old Windows XP SP3 system that doesn't support SSE2 and a tablet.
On my other systems I stepped away from avast a couple years back already.
They are running Kaspersky.

About two years ago I have had contact with several of the programmers and they weren't exactly happy with the decisions that where made.
It would not surprise me if they still aren't happy.

And what the F are you still doing here son? I've had serious issues with Avast protection on the past and many times you have quoted my posts to state the contrary and tried to blame me.... and now you are against Avast now? really? sigh...

and yes i'm still here because i consider the rest of the software solutions out there being worst than Avast. 

Having said that i haven't had a single issue with Avast this year so far except once recently when the Avast SafeZone Browser completely froze my system.
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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2016, 05:46:06 PM »
RejZoR, I will talk to you directly. Thanks.

If I'm brutally honest, I'm not in the mood for that anymore. We've talked with avast! team members months ago about things that are broken, wrong and just bad and things kept getting progressively even worse since then without any hints of any improvements. And it wasn't just bugs and glitches, it's how your entire product as a whole is being developed in recent months and years. I don't know what you can possibly do now that you haven't had done in the past months and even years now that would address any of that. I've made my share of explaining here and also in other places like Wilders (which also got me banned because they can't stand honesty apparently). Read what I've talked about for the last weeks and months and get the idea what all is wrong with avast!. You may also want to talk to others here who are still willing to invest time with avast!. I am unfortunately past that point now. I'm already on some competitor product which, despite its own stupidities is at least something I can rely on that it'll work for what it offers and has consistently high scores in amateur and professional tests. Unlike avast! which has for very long time provided tons of features that turned out to be non functional, very badly and buggy implemented as well as less effective than the name and tech behind it would suggest based on my experience with such tech found in other products. And that also reflects in tests. You may disagree, but when certain products consistently sits in top 3 places in all tests with nearly 100% or sometimes even 100% scores for the given test and avast! is just half way down the entire chart and is consistently stuck there, it's very hard to have much confidence in it. And even if I still have it, there are no empirical ways to make others believe that, if numbers don't support those claims. When I lose confidence in a product, there is no way I can with all honesty recommend it to someone else.

The point for posting this thread was a wake up message. Because, like some other user suggested, if leaving of very long time users and supporters isn't enough of a big wake up call, then I don't know what else it can be. I'll gladly return to avast! and support it again, but currently this just isn't possible. Good luck.

Hey RejZoR, I was wondering why I haven't seen you post lately on Wilders. Wow, can't seriously see how you got banned. I too was a long time user (started at V4) but eventually moved on. I have seen a big change in avast after it became majority owned by two private equity companies.

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Re: Sorry, but your product and whole company is one big mess
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2016, 01:34:20 PM »
I'd like to see Avast split their products...........one is Avast A/V....call it Avast System Protection.
The FREE is just the shields........the paid Premiere......has the other "protection" like SecureDNS, Firewall, Sandbox, HomeNetwork Security & Secure Virtual Machines.
Avast when they do UPDATES to this "suite" looks at the installation and ONLY installs updates to installed component.
Say for instance someone pays for Premium but only has Firewall.......then ONLY A/V shields & Firewall updated.
At later time if user activates one of the other items it looks at Avast Servers for latest code module and installs.
This helps insure that my A/V or other selection is not corrupted by some screw up in other module.
This also lets users do as they want.........fire and forget for what they really want.

The second product offering is "TOOLS"..........Rescue Disk, SafeZoneBrowser, CleanUp, Browser Protection, DataShredder, Software Updater.
Again, Avast can offer some of the FREE and some paid.......same applies......only what is installed is updated.

The point of above is to firewall the installs.
I think this thread and countless others point out people come to....AND stay....with Avast for the A/V.
So, isolate the A/V and make it the BEST again.

Look how MalwareBytes markets their products.
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