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Avast still spying on us :-D
« on: June 30, 2016, 02:59:38 PM »
It's been a while, I asked here, why Avast turns ON by default "participate in avast community" and "participate in data sharing". Not every update, but quite often these would be turned ON by Avast, although I keep them OFF. I was assured by a nice Avast employee that Avast has no need to spy on us, why on Earth would they do it, right? Very nice guy to chat with, realy nice. A few days ago, Avast upgraded on its own, ahem and since it again works strangely on my machine I start checking the options and obviously Avast again turned ON the above mentioned setting against my will. no respect. will never buy.
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 03:02:41 PM »
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Very nice guy to chat with
avast only has a chat for business users.

avast is not spying on you in any way.
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 03:09:05 PM »
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
It's been a while, I asked here, why Avast turns ON by default "participate in avast community" and "participate in data sharing". Not every update, but quite often these would be turned ON by Avast, although I keep them OFF.
Can't confirm your issue.

- Which Avast..? (Free/Pro/IS/Premier)
- Which version..?
- OS..? (32/64 Bit..? - which SP/Build..?)
- Other security related software installed..?
- Which AV(s) did you use before Avast..?
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 03:15:34 PM »
Quote from: Eddy on June 30, 2016, 03:02:41 PM
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Very nice guy to chat with
avast only has a chat for business users.

you have no right to suggest i lied, eddy. it would be very easy to get back at you and be nasty to you, but i still resist that urge.
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 03:19:25 PM »
Quote from: Asyn on June 30, 2016, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
It's been a while, I asked here, why Avast turns ON by default "participate in avast community" and "participate in data sharing". Not every update, but quite often these would be turned ON by Avast, although I keep them OFF.
Can't confirm your issue.

- Which Avast..? (Free/Pro/IS/Premier)
- Which version..?
- OS..? (32/64 Bit..? - which SP/Build..?)
- Other security related software installed..?
- Which AV(s) did you use before Avast..?

hi, i dont think it matters to go into thiss issue since it's been looked into by avast already and it really happens like forever, but for you:
latest avast free
win 7 x64
zone alarm free
i§ve been using avast for many, many, many years. almost bought it on at least two occasions, but i cant force myself cosidering some of my experiences.
hope it helps, but dont waste too much time on it, its not a new thing
best of luck though :)
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 03:21:02 PM »
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 03:19:25 PM
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Drop ZA and try again.
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 03:22:47 PM »
I simply stated the fact that avast only has a chat for business consumers.
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 03:33:07 PM »
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
It's been a while, I asked here, why Avast turns ON by default "participate in avast community" and "participate in data sharing". Not every update, but quite often these would be turned ON by Avast, although I keep them OFF. I was assured by a nice Avast employee that Avast has no need to spy on us, why on Earth would they do it, right? Very nice guy to chat with, realy nice. A few days ago, Avast upgraded on its own, ahem and since it again works strangely on my machine I start checking the options and obviously Avast again turned ON the above mentioned setting against my will. no respect. will never buy.
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Yes,You are partly right about Participate in data sharing.The issue you have is solved in 12.1.2272 Beta version and i also have this issue in 2016.12.1.2271 Beta:https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=187525.msg1319250#msg1319250.Changes:+ Fixed issue with user settings reset to default after program update in 12.1.2272 Beta.(https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=187642.0) One thing avast! not spying on us. :)
« Last Edit: June 30, 2016, 03:37:54 PM by Be Secure »
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 04:08:28 PM »
hi, thanks for replying.
i have 12.1.2272 (b12.1.3076.0) and i believe (but i cant be 100% sure) the switch happened with this update. but theres no way for me to be 100%.
about spying: i am a bit dramatic, of course, but the point is - we need to have trust in a product that claims to protect us and issues such as these undermind the trust. i have no way of knowing if it is just a bug or a happy spying feature. i cant tell so obviously i go with the worst case scenario. i guess its that i am czech, i would love to be proud of avast and i love so many of its features and they they always do something that angers me so much...
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 04:10:40 PM »
Quote from: Asyn on June 30, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 03:19:25 PM
zone alarm free
Drop ZA and try again.

thanks for suggestion, but too much trouble: find an alternative, learn how it works, install it, set it up... i have barelly time to reply to this thread
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 04:12:57 PM »
Quote from: p.t on June 30, 2016, 04:08:28 PM
i guess its that i am czech, i would love to be proud of avast...
Best you post/ask here then: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=30.0
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 04:15:43 PM »
Sorry, but these claims are nonsense. avast! NEVER re-enables those settings by itself. I have data sharing disabled on all systems and they have been like that for several updates.

Settings are always respected unless there is some misconfiguration due to update. Which to this date never happened for data sharing settings.

There is also EULA which describes data collection and you can look for explanation from Vlk somewhere on this forum about data collection. or was it on Wilder, I don't know exactly. Look it up.

Bottom line, in current time of heavy cloud integrated protection systems, all antiviruses gather data one way or another. Btw, have you used Google today? Yeah, that...
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 06:27:55 PM »
Quote from: RejZoR on June 30, 2016, 04:15:43 PM
avast! NEVER re-enables those settings by itself.
But it does,Now it is fixed by avast!. :)
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 06:44:11 PM »
Quote from: RejZoR on June 30, 2016, 04:15:43 PM
Sorry, but these claims are nonsense. avast! NEVER re-enables those settings by itself. I have data sharing disabled on all systems and they have been like that for several updates.

Settings are always respected unless there is some misconfiguration due to update. Which to this date never happened for data sharing settings.

There is also EULA which describes data collection and you can look for explanation from Vlk somewhere on this forum about data collection. or was it on Wilder, I don't know exactly. Look it up.

Bottom line, in current time of heavy cloud integrated protection systems, all antiviruses gather data one way or another. Btw, have you used Google today? Yeah, that...

i could almost envy you the confidence with which you know what happens on someone else's computer, but then again i dont :-D
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Re: Avast still spying on us :-D
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 06:53:27 PM »
Quote from: Be Secure on June 30, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
Quote from: RejZoR on June 30, 2016, 04:15:43 PM
avast! NEVER re-enables those settings by itself.
But it does,Now it is fixed by avast!. :)

But he knows ;-)
Seriously thanks for mentioning it here. I still have hopes for Avast. I will be on the lookout :-)
Best regards,
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