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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2016, 06:17:24 PM »
@-midnight,

True, you did not see any yet, it is just that they plan to launch such ads that cannot be blocked by adblockers. :(


@mchain. In our country 25% users use adblckers, in Germany an even larger percentage. The bulk of people on the Internet are un- or less educated and never will use ad- or scriptblockers. Many in the States  think IE or edge is a synonym for going to the Interwebs. They do not need MS to warn them against the use of Chrome or Firefox. These guys and gals make that the Farcebook circus can go uninterrupted.

That is why it is so hard to get any change and some opposition to those that earn miliions and milions from using users every data as a product (all data from two thirds of the world population) sold to the highest bidder,  and then like that carterpillar that is never satisfied, these Big Firms long for ever more money through additional ad-income streams. We are just a means to an end.

These big firms are not only into a protectionistic monopolistic form of neo-slavery, but also stopshort all forms of innovation and competition. Alas, not the best party for a pleasant experience out on the Interwebs. We are out on our own and have to fence for ourselves, dear Mchain. Adblocking may threaten free Internet in the long run, it also drains your browser with all the code that is being used in this next Adblockers War set-out! If self-regulation worked and a malad-free advertisment experience could be guaranteed I would shove my adblocker aside and not use it any longer. But the adlaunchers cannot and they won't guarantee that period, so my visors stay down.

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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2016, 09:42:50 PM »
Update

In this cat and mouse game, it seems the mouse has won this round: https://adblockplus.org/blog/fb-reblock-ad-blocking-community-finds-workaround-to-facebook

But such an arms-race is not doing us endusers any good. It could be bad for the availability of free content. It certainly means a lot of overhead on the poor browser-cycles and it seems already ABP takes quite some time to do the job. Like the English proverb says: "It is an ill wind that blows no-one any good".

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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2016, 01:14:00 PM »
The adblocker war has broken out with circumvention and retalliation from both sides.
What actually is farcebook's role here?
Their main pay model is data mining not ad-launching.
Are they working as a test-bed for the big p(l)ayers to be on ABP's whitelist: Google, Bing, etc.?
Time will tell,

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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2016, 08:56:29 AM »
I've no interest in what Facebook is doing with advertising as I have no account.  Sites that object to use of an ad-blocker and post a note asking me to turn it off are a little less trustworthy imo.
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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2016, 02:53:30 PM »
I've no interest in what Facebook is doing with advertising as I have no account.  Sites that object to use of an ad-blocker and post a note asking me to turn it off are a little less trustworthy imo.
How does asking you to allow them to make is living by showing ads make a site less trustworthy ???
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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2016, 08:06:19 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Facebook is a data-miner, so does not need the extra ad-income.  Google's main line of income is ads.
But as everyone wants to satisfy their shareholders and dare-investors to turn out money on their investments,
they want to make ABP's income-stream (for letting through unintrusive ads) redundant.
If Facebook wins, Google may save quite a penny to the pound.  ;D

I agree that web rep does not seems to correlate to devious strategies, there facebook's equal ABP's schemes, i.m.h.o.

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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2016, 08:24:27 PM »
I've no interest in what Facebook is doing with advertising as I have no account.  Sites that object to use of an ad-blocker and post a note asking me to turn it off are a little less trustworthy imo.
How does asking you to allow them to make is living by showing ads make a site less trustworthy ???
It's not that.  It's just that "what assurances do I have from that particular site that all ads are clean or not compromised?"
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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2016, 09:39:02 PM »
I've no interest in what Facebook is doing with advertising as I have no account.  Sites that object to use of an ad-blocker and post a note asking me to turn it off are a little less trustworthy imo.
How does asking you to allow them to make is living by showing ads make a site less trustworthy ???
It's not that.  It's just that "what assurances do I have from that particular site that all ads are clean or not compromised?"
There's never a 100% assurance of that on any site.
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Re: Can anyone react here?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2016, 05:37:33 AM »
Which is why running an ad-blocker prevents ad injection malware from running in the first place on any site.
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