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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2017, 07:11:33 PM »
You guys did an excellent work for AVG. Why not for AVAST??? :-\

That is what makes it so disappointing.
That said I just wonder who actually did it.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2017, 07:21:53 PM »
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)

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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2017, 07:40:00 PM »
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)
The speed is one of the main issues, as this is not about design but about usability.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2017, 07:44:12 PM »
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)

I have been using avast for very close to thirteen years and in that time we have had some great UIs. Even the very old skinable ones of the 4.x era, avast 5, 6, 7 and 8 weren't bad at all. Looking at it from outside the beta build and monitoring the beta topics, this one looks to have taken a nose dive.

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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2017, 08:01:59 PM »
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)

It is bad as a whole.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2017, 09:42:24 PM »
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.

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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2017, 09:57:18 PM »
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2017, 10:28:37 PM »
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.

I hated the windows 8.0/8.1 tiled/modern touch screen styled interface and kept away from windows 8.0/8.1. I couldn't stand the way everyone and their dog were mimicking the windows interface. But that didn't stop me continuing to use avast, I probably spend more time in the interface than your average user (grabbing images) to help out in the forums. But even then the time spent in the UI is minimal for most people not to use it or recommend it to others.

There are things I don't like about this beta version, but it won't stop me using avast just because of the interface.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2017, 09:28:13 AM »
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.
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People are visual creatures and you know it. If something looks unprofessional, ugly or hard to navigate, they'll avoid it even if it otherwise provides 100% detection. I know this first hand from my real job. We help customers find the desired product, they love everything about it, but then comes the big one "But that color is so ugly." And yes, MANY customers decide not to buy a device which has a sole function of making your life easier just because it comes in a color they don't like. And we aren't talking a mobile phone or a car here. We are talking about devices which are hidden in a closet 99% of the time and when they are used, no one is around to see how ugly colored it is. No, I'm not talking about self pleasuring devices lol XD Imagine steam iron or a vacuum cleaner.

Yes, detection surely is a No.1 on the priority list, but visual presentation comes in on strong second place. The third would be price in my opinion from observations of people. Fourth, the tech support and community. Do you get the feeling how important visual presentation is now?

What saddens me is that avast! team didn't consider any of the small changes we recommended which basically just involved re-arranging what they already have and which could be done with minimal effort and time needed to execute it. They could push the GUI with this from rather poor to a pretty damn decent state. Just by shifting few things around! I just don't get it.

Look at Kaspersky Antivirus 2017 interface and then look at avast! 17 BETA interface. All I can say is I rest my case. I hate it comparing to competition like this, but my words don't seem to be understood by some. Speed, visually appealing design, logical layout, consistency of elements and interface itself. All the things Kaspersky has and this new avast!'s interface doesn't. And I could get past all the silly inconsistencies if they only split up on-access and on-demand task and settings in the main GUI. But they insist on keeping it crammed together. That part annoys me so much. First of all it's crammed, it's badly laid out, because it's so little space with everything crammed in there, they couldn't even add Behavior Shield to the list, that "Pi" button to show statistics, like I've said million times it's microscopic and impossible to tap with a finger on a touch device like Windows tablet. I just don't know and understand why they are heading in this direction.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2017, 11:03:14 AM »
Avast should learn from Emsisoft internet security.How to make it(GUI) simple but powerful. :)
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2017, 11:15:14 AM »
Yes, Emsisoft also has a pretty nice GUI. Looks nice and is super easy to navigate. I also like how clicking individual groups (like Protection) moves you to settings for it. So you have all the info on front end and when you click it, it takes you to settings of that component.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2017, 11:52:39 AM »
Avast should learn from Emsisoft internet security.How to make it (GUI) simple but powerful. :)

I don't believe the Emsisoft UI (image) would be widely liked. Aside from being absolutely massive (even bigger than avast), and does look  a bit like an old avast UI in a way. One thing for sure this avast UI still needs work and we can't be far off releasing it.

When all things considered, just compare the AVG UI (after all they are now part of avast) and it is chalk and cheese, couldn't be more different. One looks professionally put together and the other almost an after thought.

Get rid of the ZEN element of AVG's interface change the colours to an avast scheme (Grey and Orange highlights) in the same style.

What I can't get over is the way for years we have been striving to reduce the size of things and now massive is the new Black.
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #72 on: January 25, 2017, 02:34:59 PM »
I think that in this forum, some valuable advices to re-design the Avast UI have been given. Now we Avast users are waiting with expectation, hoping our ideas will be considered.

And sorry for asking, but ... Is it possible to know when shall we have a new Beta version? Or ... are you Avast Team going back to the drawing table and re-designing it completely? We want to hear news from you!

By the way ... I am one of those who are sticking with Avast, trusting that at the end, you will make a good job - as always - and we will finally enjoy a new powerful in protection, well designed and sharp looking Avast version.  ;)
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2017, 06:53:06 PM »
We talked with the avast! team about it yesterday and today. While there was quite some constructive discussions made, we kinda lacked more direct discussion about it with team actually writing things down. Some were and some were confirmed to already be in the pipeline (just not yet in the release available to us). There will be some changes, not many, at least not at the given time. But the idea is for them to stick with the interface for longer than before, hopefully giving it enough time to improve and polish it.

At that point, I hope they'll stick with it for even longer. Users don't like dramatic changes and that's in a way problem why avast! never really gets polished. When it gets to that point, they scrap the interface, make a new one, but keep lots of parts from the old one. For example, if you look at the main settings, they are nearly identical since version 5.x while the rest of the interface changed dramatically over time. And now it just feels like they merged front GUI from latest avast! with Settings page from avast! 5.x.

While I'm super interested in Behavior Shield and few other proactive features where we did agree on some pretty neat new features they didn't consider at first, the interface is still of really high priority for me. And from what I see many other guys. I don't know, we'll see how it goes after final release of version 17 and when they cycle back into monthly releases.

I wonder if they'll be able to evolve the interface slowly from month to month through the year or will they wait for the next big release. Some unknowns for now...
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Re: New Avast UI Discussion
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2017, 07:29:53 PM »
Thanks for the update (no pun intended), it has always amazed me that for many years the avast 4.x Skinable UI was great as users could have the interface they liked best.

Avast 5 was a step change away from the old interface, but then program updates still weren't annual. But then virtually all AVs seemed to have an annual update and this was mostly reflected in a change of the UI.

If it works, keep it, only making changed if there are program changes, there have been some nice UIs along the way. But this annual program (and UI) update seemed more of keeping up with the other AVs launching a program update.

For some time we had Google-Analytics monitoring the users interaction with the UI. This was supposed to gather data for the next UI update so it was more intuitive/user friendly. It just doesn't seem any data gathered has been used.
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