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Offline DavidR

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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2006, 03:44:46 PM »
Click the Blue text in my last post, they are links to the programs, they can work alongside avast, although I would ensure that you are off-line and pause the standard shield provider before starting the other scan. The two programs are more specialised in trojan detection and removal and Ewido is the better of the two (IMHO) if you have XP ?

I doubt that avast will find anything as this is already on your system and if it was going to detect this trojan it would already have done so.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2006, 06:43:02 PM »
Well...

sorry for my tipo error at my previous message.
Actually i meant ad-aware and not avast.
So i used ad-aware to scan my system.

While ad-aware was scanning avast found a virus inside a rar file win32 kind of virus.
Probably didnt cause the problem since i hadnt ever run it. (Ad-aware had to scan it in order avast to find the virus)
Anyway i deleted it through avast and so ad-aware kept on scanning.
It found some minor threats (althought it didnt mentioned them as so important threats) i deleted them too.

Now everything seems ok....but you know....tomorrow maybe my pc will make a peperone spaggetti and consume it by itsself...

Oh ,i love/hate how so many things are running under/out of our attention inside our pc's and they just come and go by themselves...

Thanks everyone who answered me to this thread.

I hope i wont have to post here for problem again and i hope that in the near future my pc wont do things by itself all of a sudden...

N.

P.S. Excuse my lame english.

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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2006, 07:13:36 PM »
I doubt that adaware would detect anything like this, rather the specialist tools that I previously mentioned. It is also an idea to pause the standard shield whilst doing a scan with another security based program. This not only avoids possible conflict (if adaware opens a rar/zip file and it is infected avast could also detect it) not to mention the adaware scan will be quicker because avast won't be looking over its shoulder so to speak.

Deletion is never a good first option (you have none left) send it to the chest or quarantine area, etc. and investigate.

There is nothing wrong with your English, but I would question your not downloading and using one of the specialist anti-trojan tools as this possible spambot trojan may be more likely to reveal this possible infection.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2006, 08:17:01 PM »
but I would question your not downloading and using one of the specialist anti-trojan tools as this possible spambot trojan may be more likely to reveal this possible infection.

For about one and a half year with the combination of avast ,adaware and windows firewall i have a nice and well going on pc.
Before that i was in a cyceon using different firewalls antivirus e.t.c. progs ,had conflicts unwanted and sometimes useless port blocks e.t.c.
So i just fed up.
That was the virus-frightened period for me.

In the bottom end, the way the pc's work now you use one program but you have no idea what it does except what it says it does...but this is a subject for another thread i quess....

Though , since you obviously know much more from me in this area + the fact you wanted to help with no obvious profit leaves me no other option than to hear what you tell me and so i will dnld and run the prog you suggested.

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N.

P.S. Yeah in deed. I firstly moved it to the chest in order to see the what's and why's but then i remembered how fed up i was and since it was not a useful file i deleted it.Also i felt sure that this file was not the reason. Actually i found anothr thread in here with the same problem talking something about the users provider had some connection with this same problem which i think that is the same reason for me.Unfortunatelly i cannot locate the thread again :(
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2006, 08:49:07 PM »
Just a reminder again folks that the avast team have already added utorrent to the list of exclusions in the Internet Mail scanner - so that is definitely not the cause of the icon appearing.

As other's have suggested - time to use all the tools available to track down a potential spambot. 

Let's not forget that the Internet Mail scanner could be of some help here.  If there is a mail spambot at work it might well be worth turning on the timer in the Internet Mail scanner for a while (Internet Mail acanner > Customize > Advanced tab > Click on Timer > OK) and it will probably at least reveal the process that is sending out the spam.   

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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2006, 12:45:08 PM »
Hi again,

unfortunatelly the problem with the mailscanner icon persists.
Any ideas of what it might be or what i can do?

@DavidR--->I already used ewido did found some high risk progs which i deleted.
Now it says my pc is clean...but yet the problem persist

@alanrf---->I cannot find the options for the internet mail scanner to turn the timer on.Maybe because i have the free version?

Thx N.

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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2006, 01:48:42 PM »
nikits72  double click the Avast Icon in the Task Bar (see the end of alanrf's post)
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(Internet Mail acanner > Customize > Advanced tab > Click on Timer > OK
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2006, 02:14:56 PM »
Also useful as a diagnostic tool - Download HiJackThis.zip - HJT Information HiJackThis Tutorial 1 or HiJackThis Tutorial 2 or HiJackThis Tutorial 3
For an on-line analysis - HiJackThis Log file - On-line Analysis OR HiJackThis Log file - On-line Analysis 2
Ignore any 023 reference to avast processes, this is a hiccup in the HJT 1.99.1 (especially missing file entry for avast), if you need any help with any of the analysis let us know.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2006, 07:03:49 PM »
Hmmm ,
it seems that spyware doctor ver. 4.plus.something did the clean-job correctly where the adaware and ewido failed to find which prog was doing the mess.

Up to now ,no more icon for me...we ll see....
It found a backdoor trojan...i can post it here if y want but there is no reason to i think...
Actually my personal belief is that every antivir e.t.c. company 'makes' malicious progs too in order the progs of the other companies not to be able to scan (or at least they will need some more time)
It is really frustrating that every different prog which i scan my pc with to find about 400 (in total) malicious progs/track cookies e.t.c. and about 1 or 2 high risk and i run them one after the other.
The last one i used was spyware doctor.I bet if i scan with ewido right now it will find different e.t.c.
Very frustrating...

Hopefully avast is really cool for the job it does.

Thx for reading this.
N
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2006, 08:18:00 PM »
I think you are incorrect in your assumption that every antivir company makes malicious tools to prevent others detecting it, certainly not avast! The fact that when you have several security programs active they can conflict, so when running a scan with one I usually pause standard shield, so if malware that both can detect, both programs aren't fighting for control.

A backdoor trojan, by its nature will open a backdoor into your system that will restore deletions, etc. So it is also important to have a firewall to help protect against unauthorised outbound internet connections.

The tools we have suggested are used for different threats/specialities that is why they can find different things and why you should have a multi-level/application approach to your system security. Anti-Spyware/Adware programs often find more minor stuff as virtually every cookie could be classed as a tracking cookie.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2006, 11:50:33 PM »
I think you are incorrect in your assumption that every antivir company makes malicious tools to prevent others detecting it,

Yes you might be right...but then ,might you be wrong?
It is a hard fight for the companies after all,isnt it?It wouldnt be strange if some of them would use these ways ,would it be?
Certainly i am not the one to say what is going on since i aint have the knowledge.

Thx 4 sharing your opinion.
N.

P.S. Avast is my favourite .I wouldnt use it if i didnt had the opinion that it is a decent program under a decent company and i have changed a few untill i got  satisfied with one.

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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2006, 12:30:17 AM »
There are some rogue spyware products that use false positive alerts to get you to buy them so this link is always worth a look http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm.

You have to have some trust in the major AVs not doing this backed up by internet research. Any that were/are using dubious methods/tactics would soon be found out, like the Sony Rootkit issue, that didn't take long to hit the internet media/blogs, etc.

So at some point you have to trust some of them backed with research, otherwise think about selling your computer ;D ;D

A belated welcome to the forums and avast.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2006, 05:02:54 AM »
i doubt that is the utorrent cause the problem because i face the same problem too.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2006, 02:46:25 PM »
We have already confirmed that in this case, but if you are experiencing the same problem, if you can follow the suggestions we have made in this topic, excluding anything about utorrent.

More importantly can you answer any questions also asked to help us to help you.
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Re: Avast mail scanner ?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2006, 04:15:48 PM »
@ DavidR-----> Thx 4 the wellcome mate. As it is said : Better late than never :)

@ loonsave-----> You bet you will find help here.The guys are cool. As far as my problem it is solved....

Regards,
N.