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Offline saull28

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Ransom for a Ransom
« on: July 18, 2017, 07:52:46 PM »


So in order to get rid of ransomeware we have to pay your ransomeware, interesting how low your moral has fallen Avast, never thought you were capable of, I guess it's not really free but it's criminally low moral, maybe it's time to search for a truly free and ethical AV

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 07:59:15 PM »
The free version already has a lot of protection against Ransomware.
If everything was included in the free version, why would anyone purchase a paid version ???
Maybe this helps to explain the differences:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1405902#msg1405902


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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 08:06:31 PM »
For the very reason people buy now the paid version, that is not the only reason people buy a paid version, you're oversimplifying

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 08:09:51 PM »
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So in order to get rid of ransomware we have to pay your ransomware
No, as avast nor part of it is ransomware.
No, as the anti-ransomware shield helps to protect against ransomware.

There is no free av that is offering all the things the paid ones do.

I'm sure avast doesn't mind making everything free if you pay for all the expensive's.

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 08:11:57 PM »
For the very reason people buy now the paid version, that is not the only reason people buy a paid version, you're oversimplifying
There certainly are other differences between the paid and the free version. I simply replied to the one item you mentioned in your post.
Behavior Shield already gives you a lot of ransomware protection in the free version. If you want to see the differences between free and paid, take a look here: https://www.avast.com/en-us/compare-antivirus
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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 08:34:11 PM »
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So in order to get rid of ransomware we have to pay your ransomware
No, as avast nor part of it is ransomware.
No, as the anti-ransomware shield helps to protect against ransomware.

There is no free av that is offering all the things the paid ones do.

I'm sure avast doesn't mind making everything free if you pay for all the expensive's.

it's not exactly ransomeware but similar, and taking advantage of the current "terrorist software" people fear, specially adopting a similar tactic, is morally low.

It's expenses and People already do, by the millions probably, the reason Avast is mostly free on the 3 important protection layers, is because people bypass security software and uses it as full versions if they want to, software companies become the enemy to "defeat" to get the protection, and pirates do, and spreads all over the planet in a matter of a few hours and stays there; OTOH freeware full protection is very attractive, software companies become allies and it gets even more popular than distributing shareware or time-limited full versions or the pirated version combined, people that use pirated "free" antivirus become potential buyers and you can deliver practically 0-cost, instant, directly to the user advertisement through the freeware client, through Internet, Avast publishes that they have 100,000,000+ users worldwide, pretty sure people gives up to advertisement eventually, plus people have a heart mostly and will support if they can afford it, so they get easily 100,000,000+ €/$us a year, so it's not really free, nothing really is, but it's a great altruistic model that works really well because people recognizes it; so no, I don't need to pay for the expenses, get a clue before posting OK?

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 08:40:16 PM »
I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 08:44:10 PM »
For the very reason people buy now the paid version, that is not the only reason people buy a paid version, you're oversimplifying
There certainly are other differences between the paid and the free version. I simply replied to the one item you mentioned in your post.
Behavior Shield already gives you a lot of ransomware protection in the free version. If you want to see the differences between free and paid, take a look here: https://www.avast.com/en-us/compare-antivirus

I know the difference, I read them every few months when I reinstall Win or install a new Avast AV on a client PC, I know it's altruistic of Avast to give us such a quite complete version for free and just a potential buying option and a quick free registration anualy, under no obligation on their part to do so, I appreciate it greatly but it's mutually beneficial also, and they don't need to give a new technology for free neither, but the way it's offered bothers me, but I guess that's why I don't like Capitalism and I advocate for better Economic System, is Darwinian worse than in the jungle: oh you fear that? if you give me something-something, I'll protect you, I picture a asian descendant in Chicago with a black eye paying some goons for protection that some punks did last night... granted we don't ahve Internet Police and I hope we never do, but I don't know, I guess there are better ways to make money than to take advantage of the fear of the people, this is at least morally questionable for me

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 08:47:00 PM »
I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

Oh I'm probably off, but I'm pretty sure not way off, this is just the way humans behave, this is our current Capitalist Economic System and how business are done, an approximation in this case is enough

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 08:51:21 PM »
I strongly suggest you get your facts correct first.

Oh I'm probably off, but I'm pretty sure not way off, this is just the way humans behave, this is our current Capitalist Economic System and how business are done, an approximation in this case is enough
Some people still work for a living. :)
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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 09:05:01 PM »
I know, we all do, but I never wrote anybody didn't, as a matter of fact it's impossible to not work and get money if you don't in a Capitalist System, unless you're rich, and even when Avast make probably a lot more than they need, they offer Excellent quality service, fast response, great quality optimized code, no complains on that regard,  so they don't do it for the money IMO, that's why this delivery bothered me. We don't work for a living, we make business fr a living actually, work for a living is someone that gets everything by him/her-self, hopefully someday we'll work for us all, as a species, as we should

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 09:31:19 PM »
Lucky for you there is RansomeFree ... and it is FREE   ;)    https://ransomfree.cybereason.com/


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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 09:32:21 PM »
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I'm pretty sure not way off
Don't be so sure of yourself.
You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.

Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2017, 12:23:17 AM »
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I'm pretty sure not way off
Don't be so sure of yourself.
You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.

Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

I can't be that off as the error margin is greater than the whole amount and the numbers you propose make no sense, as how Avast can have -200,000,000 if any negative user count is even possible. And I'm pretty sure of myself because I used previous years amount and extrapolated according to a growth they published and make sense since is the only Anti-virus offering full and quality protection for free and people like it and download it, this is rather common, so that and I'm not a dumbass making stupid claims out of spite, so until you can post something coherent why don't you take a nice big hot cup of STFU?

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Re: Ransom for a Ransom
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2017, 12:32:10 AM »
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I'm pretty sure not way off
Don't be so sure of yourself.
You are way of if I only look at the amount of users already. You are of by +/- 300.000.000 users.

Ofcourse they do it for the money, guess why it is a commercial company.

I can't be that off as the error margin is greater than the whole amount and the numbers you propose make no sense, as how Avast can have -200,000,000 if any negative user count is even possible. And I'm pretty sure of myself because I used previous years amount and extrapolated according to a growth they published and make sense since is the only Anti-virus offering full and quality protection for free and people like it and download it, this is rather common, so that and I'm not a dumbass making stupid claims out of spite, so until you can post something coherent why don't you take a nice big hot cup of STFU?
That certainly isn't going to win you any friends. Maybe it's time to sit back and cool off a bit. :)
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