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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2017, 11:37:09 PM »
@ Lord_Ami,
There are lot's of Known Bugs in the current final release.
That's one of the complaints. Bring out new features that in some instances aren't complete when introduced
which only adds more to the problem pot. Usually when something new screws up something old, we wind up losing the old feature.

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I have said it, others have said it, Avast needs a period of consolidation and fix the outstanding bugs and known issues before introducing any others.

Of course the purchase of AVG has thrown a spanner in the works, with the incorporation of components from both Avast and AVG into two new programs doesn't help. The next spanner in the works is some time off when presumably the two programs will become one.

All of that is no excuse for known issues not being higher up the priority list.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 01:04:45 AM »
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we are not happy about them and we are fixing the most important ones. For you it might be viewed as major issue but we know from data how many users is affected.

So e.g. not smooth animation of systray icon. Yes it looks as stupid bug, but we know that 98% has the animation turned off
Hi MartinZ, It is not about number game.If 2% users are affected by any of the bugs it is Avast duty to solve the issue(small or big).Thanks for the info.

Well 2% of hundreds of millions are a lot of people, working only on 200 million users (avast states more than that), that would make it 4 million unhappy users ;)
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2017, 02:54:32 AM »
@ Lord_Ami,
Addind new features to a program that has known problems(not just the UI) is like adding fresh vegetables to a compost pile.  Trying to sort out whether a bug was created by the new feature or was an existing bug adds to the backlog of problems to solve.  The compost pile keeps getting larger.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 03:10:04 AM »
As for the bugs, we should make more noise on Avast Slack.
It is as simple as that.

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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2017, 03:16:21 AM »
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I think you did not read Martin's post entirely. As he stated, fixing all known bugs would take them half a year. Of course they are aware of much more smaller bugs that we haven't reported (be it missing icon or broken text).
Then what is the meaning of beta tests and reported bugs for the years? There are lot's of Known Bugs in the current final release.Avast is King of Bugs.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 04:12:25 AM »
With a 3rd reboot since the update, Sensitive Data Shield is suddely available.
But what does " QUET NGAY " mean  :P ( see attached screenshot ).

EDIT : I think it is Klingon for " Run Scan "  ;D
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Language appears to be Vietnamese, but Google translation isn't great either "QUET NOW" which may be QUIET NOW, if that makes any sense in context of the Button.

The funny thing is, it shows the right translation in the Dutch UI : " Nu scannen " = " Scan now " ( see attached screenshot ).
So I still think in the English UI it is Klingon ;D

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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
That doesn't mean that you should stop reporting us bugs, it's very valuable for us to know about them, but maybe we should better communicate back to you if we plan to fix them or not and why. What do you think?
Hi Martin, please do so, at least we'd know what to expect... ;) Cheers.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2017, 09:42:54 AM »
That doesn't mean that you should stop reporting us bugs, it's very valuable for us to know about them, but maybe we should better communicate back to you if we plan to fix them or not and why. What do you think?
Hi Martin, please do so, at least we'd know what to expect... ;) Cheers.

I don't know if there is a database with known bugs, when reported, their progress, etc. than can be referenced. That way we can tell if a bug has already been reported, on what Avast version what OS and crucially what progress.

Whilst there is most certainly said bug database, it isn't available, so there is no confidence whether it is being fixed or not.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2017, 10:13:00 AM »
Yep, in fact there is such a bug-db, but it's for internal use only.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2017, 03:06:19 PM »
As for the bugs, we should make more noise on Avast Slack.
It is as simple as that.

Greetz, Red.
I can't make the noise any louder. :) Bang Bang Bang.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2017, 03:56:02 PM »
Yep, in fact there is such a bug-db, but it's for internal use only.

The person responsible for the bug database, needs a big stick. There should be targets on said bugs and regular investigations on progress. Quality Control needs to get in on this as some of these bugs have been present for ages.

In the Military we used to have a saying, talk softly but carry a big stick!
Someone needs to take 'active' control over these bugs and wave the big stick.
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2017, 04:30:12 PM »
Avast has been my preferred AV product since 2006,  Hits a Seven Big Drums for all the outstanding bugs to get resolved in stable and beta builds, maybe target a few bugs a month if they have so many it would take them a half a year to fix.   Just be hopefully ready for Windows 10 Fall Creators update should be focus right now, then go back and tackle oldest outstanding bug and go from there in my opinion

 I may put up with the new threat alerts, as one thing I don't like Defender that much, scans so much slower, doesn't offer same protection as Avast.   

Anyhow will see how things go for rest of 2017, and 2018

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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2017, 09:31:09 AM »
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we are not happy about them and we are fixing the most important ones. For you it might be viewed as major issue but we know from data how many users is affected.

So e.g. not smooth animation of systray icon. Yes it looks as stupid bug, but we know that 98% has the animation turned off
Hi MartinZ, It is not about number game.If 2% users are affected by any of the bugs it is Avast duty to solve the issue(small or big).Thanks for the info.

Well 2% of hundreds of millions are a lot of people, working only on 200 million users (avast states more than that), that would make it 4 million unhappy users ;)

Yes I know. it doesn't make me feel satisfied.

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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2017, 11:15:27 AM »
New SafeZone browser version
Are you sure..? I have the same version as before (3.55.2393.609).
OK, the new SZB version just arrived (4.58.2552.909).
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Re: New Beta version 17.6.2307
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2017, 02:10:44 PM »
New SafeZone browser version
Are you sure..? I have the same version as before (3.55.2393.609).
OK, the new SZB version just arrived (4.58.2552.909).
So I pressed on the link to see what's new and wound up on the forum with information on version
3.55.2393.607 ???
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