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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2006, 12:04:16 AM »
I haven't tried this up to date any more ... but will try this soon. There are some issues known. Possible, they will not run at the same time.

You've installed in the correct way: AVGuard never should be installed in this case (same for the mail scanner)! This is essential. The shell extension is an entry only for WIN explorer ... there are no problems at all.

You need to restart after all installations ... thats WIN. ;) In this case WINXP will fix the start line and prefetch informatins and so on. When it will crash in this situation (AVAST will be blocked to start), there will be a simple driver problem (process problem).

The problem is to find a way around this. But ... it will be hard to find this .. or even impossible.

There are a lot of other sources which will do its work on WINXP. So on some machines it will run, on others only in some special configuration and on others it will not run anymore.

With ANTIVIR PE 7 AVIRA has changed a lot since AVPE version 6. So version 6 was easier to combine, version 7 is really hard to combine with others.

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2006, 12:08:54 AM »
@Tech

AVPE you can really take hard. There is not really a lot of destroying possible. ;) And the best ... it's really simple to understand how it works.

The named files are some of an older beta or WIN9X. ;)

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2006, 12:50:34 AM »
AVPE you can really take hard. There is not really a lot of destroying possible. ;)
Did you try to delete the system drivers or the Registry keys?
They're system drivers... I think I'll get a BSOD and won't test further.
It's not a problem with AntiVir but the changed installation of it that we're trying to achieve...

And the best ... it's really simple to understand how it works.
It's good to know if avast is not detecting precisely these system drivers and disabling itself  ::)

The named files are some of an older beta or WIN9X. ;)
Well, I've donwloaded the last version yesterday, my system is Win XP SP2+ and the files are there in the 'changed' folder...
So, I think I'm not wrong here...
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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2006, 01:12:18 AM »
I delete all ... devices, drivers, services, keys of ANTIVIR. Had a problem of my system and thought the problem could be AVPE (because version 7 starts rerally hard). But it was not AVPE ... it was the motherboard which has crashed.

After this AVAST is running for testing. With the mail scanning problem I've postet in the other thread.

All other things I will test with both AVAST and ANTIVR together. ;)

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2006, 02:50:43 AM »
I delete all ... devices, drivers, services, keys of ANTIVIR.
Did you stay only with the files?
Ok... will work, some executables will work on this situation.
Problem is trying to have *full* features and *not* a problem with avast...
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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2006, 11:21:57 AM »
Oh no ... I've misunderstand you. Sorry.

AVPE 7 you can't use without installtion. AVPE 7 will have some devices, services and programs running for functioning.

When AVAST and AVPE will have a propblem, this occours by process problems of one or more of this runing modules.

Possible it will run when some of AVPEs services and programs (unneccessary for demand scan) are stopped forever.

With AVPE 6 it was not a problem ... it was runnable (LukeFilewalker) without installation.

JojoFrench

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2006, 02:13:55 PM »
Thank you ... This Topic is a success !  ;D
I will try to download and install Avira AntiVir 7 only as On Demand Scanner...
I pray for it to work fine ! (sooory i'm french so... is this correct?)
I will post here the results...
Now i start the installation...

JojoFrench

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2006, 02:55:31 PM »
It's me again!
I've tested the installation of Avira and avast!...
They don't get on well together...
avast! disables its providers, it says that "avira antivir" is installed...  :-[
So i will uninstall Antivir... and download BitDefender as on demand scanner...

Now the new question is: What's the better on demand scanner that work with avast!? lol

mauserme

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2006, 02:47:28 AM »
Now the new question is: What's the better on demand scanner that work with avast!? lol

Bitdefender (free edition only) and ClamWin both work well.

JerryM

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2006, 04:45:28 AM »
I know ClamWin will work from a thumbdrive. I guess that BD scanner won't. I wish it would, as it is a first class scanner.

Jerry

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Re: avast! and AntiVir as on demand scanner
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2006, 09:04:42 PM »
For those still interested in running avast! resident and AntiVir on-demand, I am now doing it successfully using a variation of igor's suggestion: 

"Try to remove the AntiVir service from registry (HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services) - it should help" from this thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=20957.0

Install the basic AntiVir module and Explorer Extension  but not the AntiVir Guard
Reboot
Run regedit and change AntiVirService  to REMAntiVirService (but only if you know what you're doing)
Reboot again

At this point I have 7 of 8 avast! providers active (normal for my set up) and AntiVir functional as an on demand scanner after 3 additional reboots.  AntiVir seems to be updating OK now too (though slowly).