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Offline polonus

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2006, 12:45:52 PM »
Hi malware fighters,

This is also an interesting link:
http://weblog.infoworld.com/securityadviser/archives/2006/01/microsofts_onec.html
So what for the default settings of the inbuilt Vista FW? All doors should be locked, there's only need for ventilation.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #61 on: May 09, 2006, 01:04:53 PM »
why are you so interested in FWF`s credentials?  if you browse through the forums you will see them everywhere , providing help and advice to people who are in need.
College degrees are one thing but what FWF brings is far more valuable and earned over time . no self proclaimed expert there.
Posting in forums does not make you an expert or knowledgeable. Frank has proven on more than one ocassion to lack even the basic understanding of computer related concepts to provide accurate advice. He may BS some of you here but not anyone who really does this for a living So what is he so afraid of? Why not tell us all what you really do for a living.

I stand by my opinion that windows defender would not last a week on Nerons PC as it would cripple its performance and furthermore english not being his first language i think opens him up to the bugs described earlier.
 Surely imaging his hard disk would be a better option.
Prove this. I am tired of these baseless irresponsible opinions. Either put up or shut up. Please prove to everyone here how Windows Defender would cripple a PCs performance or stop posting.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2006, 01:14:18 PM »
Thanks Cloussau!

Actually I am educated in IT to degree level.  ;)
You wish. You don't even work in IT for all we know you drive a cab for a living.

http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/2005/oct27.php#winfirewall
Irrelevant a virus with system access can do this to any firewall wether it has outbound protection or not in XP.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122927,00.asp
Irrelevant it is patched.

http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/2005/mar13.php#firewall
This is the same post as the first link and the answer is the same.

http://habaneronetworks.com/viewArticle.php?ID=144
This is the same crap. Frank you can't even grasp simple concepts. Once something malicious has system access it can change any settings at will. That means your third party firewall you "think" is unbreakable. There is nothing special here.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2006, 01:27:02 PM »
I may not be psychic but I fear bananas are on the horizon and this thread is headed for the
garbage pile, like so many others....... :'(
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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2006, 01:32:02 PM »
MasterTech, I think it's time to chill out a bit.

This is not a place where personal assaults are tolerated.
I'd recommend you to read again the forum policy.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=6339.0

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2006, 02:32:30 PM »
MasterTech, I think it's time to chill out a bit.

This is not a place where personal assaults are tolerated.
I'd recommend you to read again the forum policy.

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=6339.0

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2006, 06:44:03 PM »
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Quote from: Cloussau on Today at 03:05:49 AM
I stand by my opinion that windows defender would not last a week on Nerons PC as it would cripple its performance and furthermore english not being his first language i think opens him up to the bugs described earlier.
 Surely imaging his hard disk would be a better option.
Prove this. I am tired of these baseless irresponsible opinions. Either put up or shut up. Please prove to everyone here how Windows Defender would cripple a PCs performance or stop posting.

Mastertech I can assure you that I will never use all in one programs or programs that use too much system resources even if i had a faster computer and this is because there is always a way to avoid it(windows defender or even Norton and avast! for an example).
Why should I totally kill the system performance.I just don't need it.Not a single infection for more than 1 year.Only people who don't know how to protect and secure their PC's will install stuffs like that.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2006, 06:50:05 PM »
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Unfortunately it always takes Two or more to tango.

I prefer the foxtrot.  ;)

An interesting point fro the recent review of anti-virus software. One AV running with Windows firewall missed a Trojan which was able to disable the firewall:

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It ignored several Trojans, one of which successfully disabled the Windows firewall, allowing potential attackers remote control of the system.

http://www.computershopper.co.uk/labs/220/anti-virus-exposed/products.html

Zone Alarm AV also missed some Trojans, but as it includes ZA firewall the story was different:

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The anti-virus scanner missed four of our Trojans. But when one tried to contact the internet the firewall stopped it.

http://www.computershopper.co.uk/labs/220/anti-virus-exposed/products.html

This sort of result leads me to recommend a third party firewall,and I'll continue to do so on the forum. Whether anybody takes my advice is up to them.

As stated in the SpywareInfo newsletter, a good firewall should encrypt its settings so that they cannot be altered by malicious programs. This is very different to having settings stored in the registry. The fix for the problem mentioned seems to be forcing the display of exceptions in Windows firewall.

These sort of past (and present) weaknesses make me suspect that once an infection has occurred, it may never be possible to clean out every registry change made that might affect Windows firewall. I'm going to continue recommending a third-party firewall. Again, whether anybody takes my advice is up to them.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2006, 07:02:50 PM »
Hi FwF,

For the mo it seems ZA is not afraid of the Vista FW.
Read here: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/73699

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2006, 11:41:03 PM »
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Why should I totally kill the system performance.
I highly doubt that this qualifies it as a system hog but it's your system and your choice
as it is with any program regardless of who's name is attached to it.... ;D ;D

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2006, 12:10:22 AM »
Is this a thread hijack children  ::)

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2006, 01:00:29 AM »
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Yeah ... about a couple of pages back by now.    ::)


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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2006, 10:09:08 AM »
Hi!
 Just want to ask for an advise.I'm currently using the windows firewall.,but as we all now it doesn't protect outbound traffic.Zone alarm is extremely heavy for my computer(just 750MHz,256 ram.Segate firewall pro was much lighter but it was getting older(and was a bit heavy too).That's why I switched to windows firewall again.And no problems with it at all.I am very happy with it,but will gladly consider to change it with something better if it's not heavy and provides good protection.It should be easy to setup too.

Can you please give me a clue?Is there such firewall
Thank you

Hello Neron, just to simply answer your first question, (I'm a plumber and don't know anything about computers  ;D  ) : I have a few computers and on one of them I use the windows firewall together with Winpatrol, just like you. It works just fine, never ever any infection and I trust the combination. On the other pc I use the Filseclab firewall. It is very lite on resources and easy to understand. So, it's your choice. I don't think it will make much of a difference though.
Good luck and hey, discussions are interesting as long as no personal offenses are being adressed to fellow members...

Bye,

Fast  :)

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« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2006, 01:49:40 PM »
I am still waiting on any remote proof of negative system performance using Windows Defender. It is now much more clear how these Myths are invented.

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Re: I need an advise
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2006, 03:46:55 PM »
Locked.