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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2018, 09:17:21 PM »
I am waiting for Tuesday and I also wait for Avast for some type of notification notifying that the problem is solved.

I find it annoying to pay for the internet security and that instead of protect unprotect the pc.

The antivirus companies in general can not have this type of failures, because windows defend according to the read works quite well and may not return to external antivirus.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2018, 09:23:48 PM »
Anyway you have to be aware that this update has been done extremely fast and I think that it has not given time to all the antivirus companies to have their product ready.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2018, 09:30:12 PM »
Anyway you have to be aware that this update has been done extremely fast and I think that it has not given time to all the antivirus companies to have their product ready.
It's a Microsoft problem.

The following comes from Avast:This has been escalated to Avast's contact at Microsoft. Avast has done everything that Microsoft required, but the update is still not showing up. Until we resolve the issue with Microsoft, people can apply the patch that can be downloaded directly from http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4056892 (link valid for Win10 1709). I know it’s a pain, hopefully it will get rolled out automatically to all users soon.
Apparently Avast isn't the only one with these same issues.
https://forum.eset.com/topic/14254-eset-and-kb4056892/
https://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?/topic/385249-is-kav-kis-1800405f-working-with-windows-10-new-patch-for-meltdown-spectre-bugs/
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2018, 09:57:22 PM »
I'm a Windows 7 user on a 64 bit system and I'm not seeing the registry key needed to allow for the Microsoft update.  My copy of Avast free is the latest version and I tried repairing Avast, but the key is still absent!

I had to download a new installer from Avast!, uninstall the current version, and then reinstall it using the freshly downloaded installer in order for the registry key to appear.

This didn't happen on my Windows 7 systems. The registry entries were already present on those machines. I'll see if they get the Windows 7updates on Tuesday.

Well, we wait for news to see what happens.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2018, 10:21:04 PM »
If you are running Win10, the patch is available NOW. If you are running any version previous to Win10 (8.1, 8, 7), that patch will be coming on Patch Tuesday (Jan 9, 2018).

Other patches should also be already out - I've downloaded the one for Windows 7.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2018, 10:21:28 PM »
As far I'm concerned , I have updated W10 from 1703 to 1709 last week
Don't have kb4056892 to download neither installed (no more directly from catalog)

But when I have a look for W10 built version it is indicated "16299.192"
Does it mean that the patch was applied directly during the switch from 1703 to 1709 and that it is normal that the kb4056892 does not appear any more anywhere (to download and installed)?
nb:I also have right QualityCompat key in my registry

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2018, 10:29:04 PM »
As far I'm concerned , I have updated W10 from 1703 to 1709 last week
Don't have kb4056892 to download neither installed (no more directly from catalog)

But when I have a look for W10 built version it is indicated "16299.192"
Does it mean that the patch was applied directly during the switch from 1703 to 1709 and that it is normal that the kb4056892 does not appear any more anywhere (to download and installed)?
nb:I also have right QualityCompat key in my registry
I highly doubt that since the update in question is dated as 1/3/2018
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2018, 10:29:57 PM »
As far I'm concerned , I have updated W10 from 1703 to 1709 last week
Don't have kb4056892 to download neither installed (no more directly from catalog)

But when I have a look for W10 built version it is indicated "16299.192"
Does it mean that the patch was applied directly during the switch from 1703 to 1709 and that it is normal that the kb4056892 does not appear any more anywhere (to download and installed)?
nb:I also have right QualityCompat key in my registry

If you do not get the update automatically you will have to do it manually, or uninstall avast and use windows update.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2018, 10:30:16 PM »
https://support.avast.com/en-us/article/Meltdown-Spectre-vulnerability/
I found this information about the update. But it refers only to windows 10 what about windows 7 ?  How do I check if i´ve got the new registry key ?
I have run windows update and it says there is no new updates for the computer. I´m running windows 7 home premium.
Yesterday when I started up my other pc with McAfee internet security installed I got the new microsoft security update downloaded and installed. But on this pc with windows 7 home premium and avast antivirus pro nothing is showing up. Any suggestions ?


                                           

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2018, 10:37:25 PM »
No updates on my Win 7 machine either, or my wife's.  We both have the registry key, both have updated avast! and Malwarebytes.  I can only imagine this is something avast! has been slow to deal with.

Also, our motherboards are both really old.  I have a cheapy MSI B85M-P33.  Presumably I'll be waiting a good while for firmware updates there; the MSI website only mentions some gaming series' at the moment.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2018, 10:40:08 PM »
on this pc with windows 7 home premium and avast antivirus pro nothing is showing up. Any suggestions ?
No updates on my Win 7 machine either, or my wife's.  We both have the registry key, both have updated avast! and Malwarebytes.

Just download this patch manually.

Patch for Windows 7 is already out in Microsoft Update Catalog
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4009469/windows-7-sp1-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-update-history

Download whichever suits you better.

January 4, 2018—KB4056894 (Monthly Rollup)
info: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056894
download: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4056894

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January 3, 2018—KB4056897 (Security-only update)
info: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056897
download: https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4056897
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2018, 10:56:59 PM »
No updates on my Win 7 machine either, or my wife's.  We both have the registry key, both have updated avast! and Malwarebytes.  I can only imagine this is something avast! has been slow to deal with.

Also, our motherboards are both really old.  I have a cheapy MSI B85M-P33.  Presumably I'll be waiting a good while for firmware updates there; the MSI website only mentions some gaming series' at the moment.

If you have a very old motherboard, then the likelihood is you would have an old CPU also.  This vulnerability is as far as I can tell is meant to be for the modern range of CPUs. That said I haven't found a source that specifically reports what CPUs are affected.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2018, 11:04:37 PM »
If you have a very old motherboard, then the likelihood is you would have an old CPU also.  This vulnerability is as far as I can tell is meant to be for the modern range of CPUs. That said I haven't found a source that specifically reports what CPUs are affected.
I did have a link but can't yet find it.  I have a Core i5 which was definitely on the list (as were the others in the range, of course). Since it was a small company that made the PC I have to find the patches manually, but yes, it seems at the moment the MSI website only lists some gaming 100, 200 and 300 series for BIOS patches; mine hasn't been touched for nearly three years.

My wife has an HP Pavilion but her particular one doesn't seem to be listed on HP's support site, just other (presumably newer) versions.  She has an AMD processor so perhaps it's less important.  Still, it's frustrating not being able to update either of those nor having the Win 7 update listed (I'd rather wait for that if possible.  If it doesn't show for us on Tuesday I guess I'll manually do it, but neither of us are tech-savvy); I just feel sort of afloat.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2018, 11:05:41 PM »
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2018, 11:19:46 PM »
A slide from my current presentation

Your slide is about Intel ME vulnerabilities, not about Meltdown nor Spectre.