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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2018, 11:20:28 PM »
If you have a very old motherboard, then the likelihood is you would have an old CPU also.  This vulnerability is as far as I can tell is meant to be for the modern range of CPUs. That said I haven't found a source that specifically reports what CPUs are affected.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2018, 11:29:35 PM »
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Your slide is about Intel ME vulnerabilities, not about Meltdown nor Spectre.
It's what Intel put out ???
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2018, 11:32:05 PM »
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Your slide is about Intel ME vulnerabilities, not about Meltdown nor Spectre.
It's what Intel put out ???
No Bob, Lexor is right. Not related to the bug discussed here.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2018, 11:36:53 PM »
It's what Intel put out ???
Here is more about Intel ME problems - it was previous year, not now.
https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=intel-sa-00086&languageid=en-fr

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2018, 11:56:35 PM »
As far I'm concerned , I have updated W10 from 1703 to 1709 last week
Don't have kb4056892 to download neither installed (no more directly from catalog)

But when I have a look for W10 built version it is indicated "16299.192"
Does it mean that the patch was applied directly during the switch from 1703 to 1709 and that it is normal that the kb4056892 does not appear any more anywhere (to download and installed)?
nb:I also have right QualityCompat key in my registry
I highly doubt that since the update in question is dated as 1/3/2018
When I said last week it was more precisely the 1/4/2018 ,...,so already after the patch  ;)
if I took care to specify that my built was the "16299.192" is because I read (in french) about this update Here that it allows the OS to upgrade to version 16299.192.
In french : "L’installation de KB4056892 permet à l’OS d’évoluer vers la version 16299.192."
since the update of my OS in version 16299.192 has been done, I deduce that the patch is included in this new built , no ?

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #80 on: January 07, 2018, 12:03:53 AM »
As far I'm concerned , I have updated W10 from 1703 to 1709 last week
Don't have kb4056892 to download neither installed (no more directly from catalog)

But when I have a look for W10 built version it is indicated "16299.192"
Does it mean that the patch was applied directly during the switch from 1703 to 1709 and that it is normal that the kb4056892 does not appear any more anywhere (to download and installed)?
nb:I also have right QualityCompat key in my registry
I highly doubt that since the update in question is dated as 1/3/2018
When I said last week it was more precisely the 1/4/2018 ,...,so already after the patch  ;)
if I took care to specify that my built was the "16299.192" is because I read (in french) about this update Here that it allows the OS to upgrade to version 16299.192.
In french : "L’installation de KB4056892 permet à l’OS d’évoluer vers la version 16299.192."
since the update of my OS in version 16299.192 has been done, I deduce that the patch is included in this new built , no ?

If you already have Build "16299.192" you already have the update, the previous Build is "16299.125".

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2018, 12:08:23 AM »
No updates on my Win 7 machine either, or my wife's.  We both have the registry key, both have updated avast! and Malwarebytes.  I can only imagine this is something avast! has been slow to deal with.

Also, our motherboards are both really old.  I have a cheapy MSI B85M-P33.  Presumably I'll be waiting a good while for firmware updates there; the MSI website only mentions some gaming series' at the moment.

If you have a very old motherboard, then the likelihood is you would have an old CPU also.  This vulnerability is as far as I can tell is meant to be for the modern range of CPUs. That said I haven't found a source that specifically reports what CPUs are affected.
I just had the 2 patches related to Meltdown for my xp yet with a very old CPU (but INTEL PIV) with old motherboard (P4C800E) ,
On the other hand, no patch proposed on my w7 and W8.1 with AMD CPU
So I think it's more of a manufacturer issue than obsolecense

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2018, 12:14:49 AM »
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2018, 12:15:57 AM »
If you have a very old motherboard, then the likelihood is you would have an old CPU also.  This vulnerability is as far as I can tell is meant to be for the modern range of CPUs. That said I haven't found a source that specifically reports what CPUs are affected.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2018, 12:55:58 AM »
Presumably I just keep checking the MSI website to update the BIOS if/when my motherboard eventually has a firmware update.  Like I said my computer isn't from a large company and isn't supported; they basically just pre-made from various components so it's a bit of a DIY situation rather than going to them for installers.

As written my wife's is HP and isn't listed on their support page (lots are.  Huh).

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2018, 01:01:33 AM »
Presumably I just keep checking the MSI website to update the BIOS if/when my motherboard eventually has a firmware update.  Like I said my computer isn't from a large company and isn't supported; they basically just pre-made from various components so it's a bit of a DIY situation rather than going to them for installers.

As written my wife's is HP and isn't listed on their support page (lots are.  Huh).

I don't know who would be responsible for the update, as the CPU is a component and not an integral part of the MB and again it would depend on if your CPU is effected by this.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2018, 01:05:13 AM »
I don't know who would be responsible for the update, as the CPU is a component and not an integral part of the MB and again it would depend on if your CPU is effected by this.
Yes, the Core i5 is on the affected list. My computer was made by some company called CyberPowerPC.  It's just some five+ year old cheaper-end computer and is not listed on their website or anything.  If I don't get the update from MSI I doubt I could get it from CyberPowerPC, that's for sure.  As I wrote before I found out the motherboard type (B85M-P33) but that's as far as I got.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2018, 01:16:34 AM »
I don't know who would be responsible for the update, as the CPU is a component and not an integral part of the MB and again it would depend on if your CPU is effected by this.
Yes, the Core i5 is on the affected list. My computer was made by some company called CyberPowerPC.  It's just some five+ year old cheaper-end computer and is not listed on their website or anything.  If I don't get the update from MSI I doubt I could get it from CyberPowerPC, that's for sure.  As I wrote before I found out the motherboard type (B85M-P33) but that's as far as I got.

Is this your motherboard?: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B85M-P33

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2018, 01:21:39 AM »
I don't know who would be responsible for the update, as the CPU is a component and not an integral part of the MB and again it would depend on if your CPU is effected by this.
Yes, the Core i5 is on the affected list. My computer was made by some company called CyberPowerPC.  It's just some five+ year old cheaper-end computer and is not listed on their website or anything.  If I don't get the update from MSI I doubt I could get it from CyberPowerPC, that's for sure.  As I wrote before I found out the motherboard type (B85M-P33) but that's as far as I got.

If I remember rightly my PC was custom built by them also even longer ago than yours and I don't believe my Intel Core2Duo E8300 is on the affected list.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #89 on: January 07, 2018, 01:25:15 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_(security_vulnerability)
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Intel-SA-00086 Detection Tool does not seem to work with winxp ("... is not a valid win32 application"). :-[
However , works on my w7 (AMD) => not affected