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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #105 on: January 08, 2018, 06:27:05 PM »
AMD CPU users may expect BSOD after installing this monthly rollup. So don't install if you have any AMD CPU.
Sorry, I saw this too late. I already got the BSOD and W7 was going to start a systemstartrepair, but I refused. Do you or anybody else have a AMD processor listing? I didn't find any.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #106 on: January 08, 2018, 07:57:03 PM »
Tried to check whether my Avast (v17.9, running on Windows 10 64 bits) engine and virus definition are up to date. Avast is set for automatic update.  The Avast Update screen shows Engine up to date, but under Definitions it shows Current Version and Release Date unknown and "Connection not Established". Pressing the update button the program goes into a sulk and hangs.

Now, what do I do?

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #107 on: January 08, 2018, 08:23:41 PM »
I use Avast free 17.9.2322.  The day BEFORE Patch Tuesday this month I was offered the Jan 2018 security rollup for Windows 7, installed it and when Windows tried to restart I was presented with a blue screen and several 8 and 16 digit HEX numbers. Windows did the same when I tried starting in safe mode. The system is apparently bricked.

This was a tidy stable Windows 7 (64bit) which smoothly negotiated previous Patch Tuesdays for many years. I ask myself if the Spectre/Meltdown fixes were responsible for the BSOD. I am taking measures to protect several Windows 7 systems belonging to friend who also use Avast s by preventing automatic updates until a safe security rollup appears. I do not know if Windows 8.1 is affected.

How does one tell Microsoft that an update might be a bad one?
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2018, 09:47:17 PM »
I have Windows 10 (64) 1709 and the latest version of Avast free. Unstalling Avast, download and install the update, reinstall Avast did the trick for me.  No problems.

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2018, 10:05:44 PM »
Today KB4056894 was available via Windows Update.  I have AIS installed and updated.  All 3 of my Win 7 SP1 Pro computers installed the KB successfully.  2 of the machines are in my signature and one is an I5.  Avast caused no problems here.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2018, 10:20:17 PM »
Hi
Today I was offered an update on my windows 7 machine with avast installed. I downloaded and after download a message in windows update which said that the update was not needed ? When I checked no update was installed today. Latest was installed 2017.12.12.
I rebooted and in windows update it said that the same update was there for download marked as important. What shall I do ? just ignore the message ? Or should I go through the same procedure again ? Or hide the update ? Any good advice ?

Quick update to this. I did dowload the update again and it was installed. So if anyone has the same message that the update was not needed and then when starting windows update sees that there is an update try and download it again it worked for me. But i´m still confused about the message that 1 update was not needed after the first try and nothing was installed.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2018, 11:44:19 PM »
Finally I got KB4056894 via Windows Update. Installed without any problem.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2018, 01:04:29 AM »
Hi
Today I was offered an update on my windows 7 machine with avast installed. I downloaded and after download a message in windows update which said that the update was not needed ? When I checked no update was installed today. Latest was installed 2017.12.12.
I rebooted and in windows update it said that the same update was there for download marked as important. What shall I do ? just ignore the message ? Or should I go through the same procedure again ? Or hide the update ? Any good advice ?

Quick update to this. I did dowload the update again and it was installed. So if anyone has the same message that the update was not needed and then when starting windows update sees that there is an update try and download it again it worked for me. But i´m still confused about the message that 1 update was not needed after the first try and nothing was installed.

This might help you.
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/171814-posready-2009-updates-ported-to-windows-xp-sp3-enu/?page=137
Check also pages 136 & 135
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #113 on: January 09, 2018, 01:25:06 AM »
This might help you.
Not at all. My W7 machine is already broken.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #114 on: January 09, 2018, 01:34:04 AM »
This might help you.
Not at all. My W7 machine is already broken.
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Snake go to the windows 7 forum link below.
http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/165-windows-7/

Those guys can really help.
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #115 on: January 09, 2018, 03:05:47 AM »
Picked up the 1709 update through WU today on both my W10 machines and all has seemed to go well, so whatever was conflicting to halt it being delivered must have been resolved :)
As a non-Avast side note, does anyone know if there somehow an update for Vista? I know they stopped support, but it was the same for XP and I thought I saw people talking about getting one for XP. It's not a big deal to me whether Vista gets one or not (I don't use it for anything important), but I'm just curious.

Thanks :)

I wouldn't expect one. The mentions about Win XP most likely refer to Windows XP Embedded, which Microsoft still needs to support. Some people modify the registry in their standard XP installation, to make it being discovered as Win XP Embedded, allowing to install patches. That's not supported though and may cause quite some issues.
Interesting, makes sense. Thanks :)

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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #116 on: January 09, 2018, 04:01:56 AM »
This might help you.
Not at all. My W7 machine is already broken.
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By the way, have you tried to uninstall the KB(s) in question ?
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Re: MS Security Update for Meltdown
« Reply #119 on: January 09, 2018, 01:01:11 PM »
FYI

Running Avast Free v17.9.2322 (Build 17.9.3761.0) on W10 v1709 (Build 16299.192) laptop, with Intel Core M-5Y10c CPU

Reg.Key correctly created when I did an in-place update to current Avast Version (over weekend). KB4056892 auto-downloaded by Windows Update, last night and installed with no probs, just now.

Nice when something actually works correctly!