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System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« on: March 17, 2018, 10:26:39 AM »
Today the ever-helpful 'Avast cleanup' popup appeared. It duly told me that I had 133GB of 'system junk' which they would be glad to try to resolve.

Fine - - - except that the whole of my hard drive has only 127GB of stuff on it - INCLUDING the operating system!!!!

Needless to say I didn't dare hit the 'resolve' button: who knows what would have happened??

SO, the question is, what makes a (supposed) aid to the system so inefficient - or worse - that it 'thinks' there is a problem which is bigger than the whole system itself?? It makes me very wary of ANYTHING Avast tells me form now on . . . . .

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 10:58:21 AM »
Are you using Avast Free..? Sounds like an ad...
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2018, 04:40:11 PM »
Dont trust it, is only AD, they want force you to buy they product. Ignore it.

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2018, 05:35:58 PM »
@  rbruce1314
The resolve button it totally misleading 'Resolve' is an action word, not informative.  I have been banging on about this for as long as this Resolve button has been there. It really should be something like 'More Information' or Details as that is actually what it shows, not something that scares the pants of users.

If you clicked the Resolve you would find more information but at this point you wouldn't be able to see greater detail to selectively choose what to clean up, that is the preserve of the paid version of clean up.

Personally I would uninstall the clean up component and just use the free version of CCleaner, formally of Piriform, but Piriform CCleaner is now a part of Avast Software.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2018, 06:31:11 PM »
Hi,
I would prefer  Windows Disc Clean-Up Tool instead of CCleaner

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2018, 06:42:04 PM »
Hi,
I would prefer  Windows Disc Clean-Up Tool instead of CCleaner

I don't believe it is anywhere as flexible/configurable as CCleaner.

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2018, 06:43:28 PM »
Hi,
I would prefer  Windows Disc Clean-Up Tool instead of CCleaner
I don't believe it is anywhere as flexible/configurable as CCleaner.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2018, 07:26:12 PM »
Hi,
I would prefer  Windows Disc Clean-Up Tool instead of CCleaner
I don't believe it is anywhere as flexible/configurable as CCleaner.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 10:07:29 AM »
I remotely remember some problems with CCleaner in another forum.

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 10:13:58 AM »
I remotely remember some problems with CCleaner in another forum.
Remotely remembering something is seldom helpful... ;)
Personally, I never had issues with any version of CCleaner.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 10:18:53 AM »
I remotely remember some problems with CCleaner in another forum.
Remotely remembering something is seldom helpful... ;)
Personally, I never had issues with any version of CCleaner.

Snap.

One thing I don't allow CCleaner to do is touch any Avast location.  Whilst I haven't had any problems with CCleaner, I feel it prudent not to allow any program to access avast locations.

The is where its configurability comes in, the user is in control of what it does.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 10:37:25 AM »
Isn't this a Stockholm syndrome best example?????

So, a piece of software is grossly deceiving you, yet you continue to use....

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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 11:32:44 AM »
Isn't this a Stockholm syndrome best example?????

So, a piece of software is grossly deceiving you, yet you continue to use....

The same could be said of being held hostage to Microsoft Windows, there might be things that you don't like about it.  But then the choices are limited Linux, more complex for many or being held hostage by Apple the Mac OS walled garden.
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Re: System cleanup: rubbish or Dangerous??
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 11:49:44 AM »
Isn't this a Stockholm syndrome best example?????

So, a piece of software is grossly deceiving you, yet you continue to use....

That's a bit cynical isn't it? Do I sell my latest car just because I find the lane-assist system doesn't work below 60kph??

Are you using Avast Free..? Sounds like an ad...
That's a far more serious allegation. If I thought Avast were allowing third-party popups/adverts to masquerade as Avast components, you'd be right - I'd be out of Avast and into a.n.other like a shot. SURELY you cannot be right on this one.

Oh, and yes: I refuse to let CC anywhere Avast files  ;)