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question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« on: June 13, 2018, 05:52:25 PM »
Hey,
luckily I had no problems with the 1803 update for windows 10.
Nevertheless I saw the video from the user "bob3160" who recommends to turn of the avast shields before starting a windows update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=057&v=E0HauiqTVIo

In the video he says that windows defender will automatically be activated if I disable avast. As it is written in the comment and out of my own experience that seems not to be the case.

So what is your opinion what is the best "preparation" for a windows update?
1. just disable the avast shields
or 2. disable avast shields an turn off the internet connection (because it seems you are not protected by defender if avast is deactivated)?
3. Is such preparation also necessary for minor windows updates or just for the big ones?

thanks for your opinion/help!
« Last Edit: June 13, 2018, 06:46:03 PM by cacao »

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Re: short question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 06:32:08 PM »
I don't disable anything before installing windows updates.
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Re: short question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 06:41:13 PM »
I don't disable anything before installing windows updates.

that is what I also always did. But threre was a quite high amount of windows users who had avast installed as their antivirus and had a big problem with the last windows 1803-april-update (i refer to the bluescreen problem).
And that is what made me wonder whether you can do something to minimize the probability of a failing/buggy windows update.

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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 09:09:23 PM »
Just so we get it straight, I'm not the only one to make that recommendation.
Even if I may have made that suggestion a bit earlier than most.
Instead of disabling the shields, you could also have set Avast to passive mode.

You should also notice that I made that same recommendation for any other programs you
may have had running in the background.
I don't do this when I do the patch Tuesday updates. I do take that precaution for the
Semi-annual OS Updates.
I followed this advice an the many systems I've updated and had no problems with the
Windows 10 1803 update on any of those systems.
It's your computer and you make the ultimate decision.  I'm simply offering my advice
base on my own experience.
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 09:23:06 PM »
thanks for your answer bob3160!
the question was not meant as an offense and I hope you didn't conceive it as one  ;)

Do you think it is an bad idea to turn off the internet connection when avast is disabled for the update (of course provided that the update is already downloaded)?

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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 10:08:55 PM »

thanks for your answer bob3160!
the question was not meant as an offense and I hope you didn't conceive it as one

Do you think it is an bad idea to turn off the internet connection when avast is disabled for the update (of course provided that the update is already downloaded)?
(No offense was taken. :) )
For the 1803 update, Microsoft goes out to check on any last minute updates so if you've turned off your internet,
the update will probably fail. Remember, there is no such thing as 100% safe. If you're downloading the
update directly from the MS update server, I highly doubt you're going to run into an infection.
Also realize that no AV guarantees 100% protection.
If you've downloaded the ISO and are upgrading via the ISO, and select not to check on updates, it's probably OK
to turn off the internet till the update completes.
I've told you my way. For me, it's always worked.
If you opt to use the Passive Mode option for Avast, you'll be asked to reboot.
After the reboot, Defender will be you protection.

Once the update has completed, don't forget to turn your Avast protection back on.
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 10:34:39 PM »
I don't disable anything before installing windows updates.

that is what I also always did. But threre was a quite high amount of windows users who had avast installed as their antivirus and had a big problem with the last windows 1803-april-update (i refer to the bluescreen problem).
And that is what made me wonder whether you can do something to minimize the probability of a failing/buggy windows update.

I didn't disable anything while installing the april update.
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 10:55:42 PM »

I didn't disable anything while installing the april update.

Lucky you. If you've done any reading at all, you would have known that this wasn't the case for a great number of people.
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 11:16:23 PM »
@bob3160:
Thanks for your tips!
just for clarification: with "compatibility option" you mean the "passive mode" of avast that you described in your previous post, right?
I will definitely do it when the next semi-annual windows update will arise  :D

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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 11:27:51 PM »
@bob3160:
Thanks for your tips!
just for clarification: with "compatibility option" you mean the "passive mode" of avast that you described in your previous post, right?
I will definitely do it when the next semi-annual windows update will arise  :D
Thanks, I've corrected the original post to reflect Passive Mode. :)
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2018, 12:43:53 AM »
@bob3160...…..What do you mean "lucky you"? ::)
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2018, 12:59:09 AM »
As in, ...you were lucky nothing bad happened.
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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 12:46:44 AM »

I didn't disable anything while installing the april update.

Lucky you. If you've done any reading at all, you would have known that this wasn't the case for a great number of people.


I know that.


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Re: question regarding disabling avast for windows updates
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2018, 02:09:24 AM »

I didn't disable anything while installing the april update.

Lucky you. If you've done any reading at all, you would have known that this wasn't the case for a great number of people.


I know that.
If you knew that, why did you post this:
@bob3160...…..What do you mean "lucky you" ???
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