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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2018, 03:26:11 PM »
Well 100% ending support. This doesn't include UPDATES does it to the AV database? Another company had did this YEARS ago but allowed updates to  the AV database. Otherwise it puts EVERYONE else at risk too. I am a part of a Nationwide  Emergency Management system. We use durable equipment that REQUIRES XP or sooner. We have hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment. Windows XP along with Avast is the heart of this system. This is part of the Volunteer system by federally licensed individuals in every state in the USA. We have people in DHS,DOD,FEMA,Red Cross  & other various State and Federal Agencies in this Emergency Management System for deployment and assistance. Basically we are the ONLY  one's available for contacts in a emergency such as Loss of  Power,Medical Emergencies, Tornadoes. Our equipment is not what some would see as 'outdated' by any means. Newer equipment does NOT meet standards and will fail under various conditions. Our devices are exposed to extreme temperatures, humidity, shock, eletro-static [Lightening]. These systems are in place and needs to equipment  to be added. Being more is needed to make our grid have more redundancies. AVAST works the best AV out there and doesn;t interfere or slow down what we have to do. GREAT Losses to Security and potentially the lives of countless thousands. Would be at some stake if part of our system has no AVAST AV system. Not to mention the losses to Avast nationwide. If we can't run our equipment based  on these issues. The costs would be priceless. PLEASE do not blacklist XP. Windows 10 is  NOT compatible with our systems nor is Windows 7. It took  decades to have these systems in place. In this day & age we do  NOT have the time to replace what would be MILLIONS of Dollars and man hours to TRY and keep volunteers. This change to AVAST would more than Jeopardize a major Emergency Management system.
As already stated, You'll continue to receive streaming and VPS updates. Protection updates continue Program Enhancements will end.
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2018, 06:32:12 PM »
XP and Vista still get virus definitions. So what is point of this thread?  Only virus definitions are needed for protected system, no each month changed GUI or new bloatware.

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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2018, 12:46:28 AM »
XP and Vista still get virus definitions. So what is point of this thread?  Only virus definitions are needed for protected system, no each month changed GUI or new bloatware.
Any new technology that would increase your protection which isn't tied to streaming or VPS updates would not be available to these older systems mainly because these systems don't have the capabilities of using this newer technology. Increasing protection isn't tied to a database of known dangers. Currently, stopping new and unknown malware is done via other means. Artificial intelligence is only one of these newer methods.
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2018, 07:25:06 AM »
XP and Vista still get virus definitions. So what is point of this thread?  Only virus definitions are needed for protected system, no each month changed GUI or new bloatware.
Any new technology that would increase your protection which isn't tied to streaming or VPS updates would not be available to these older systems mainly because these systems don't have the capabilities of using this newer technology. Increasing protection isn't tied to a database of known dangers. Currently, stopping new and unknown malware is done via other means. Artificial intelligence is only one of these newer methods.
Well said bob3160.   :)

VPS virus database files are like having a locked front door which will block bad files from entering.  But malware now can enter through cracks in your wall, cracked open windows, and even through your basement.  Some can even pick your lock.  This is where new and modern up-to-date a/v solutions can protect your system beyond traditional protection means.
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2018, 07:39:49 AM »
XP and Vista still get virus definitions. So what is point of this thread?  Only virus definitions are needed for protected system, no each month changed GUI or new bloatware.
Any new technology that would increase your protection which isn't tied to streaming or VPS updates would not be available to these older systems mainly because these systems don't have the capabilities of using this newer technology. Increasing protection isn't tied to a database of known dangers. Currently, stopping new and unknown malware is done via other means. Artificial intelligence is only one of these newer methods.
Well said bob3160.   :)

VPS virus database files are like having a locked front door which will block bad files from entering.  But malware now can enter through cracks in your wall, cracked open windows, and even through your basement.  Some can even pick your lock.  This is where new and modern up-to-date a/v solutions can protect your system beyond traditional protection means.
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2018, 04:51:10 PM »
Nice link Asyn.
Great info. for the interested :)
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2018, 08:33:43 PM »
I'm new to this thread and want to update my old Avast 4.8 on WinXP/SP3.  I understand XP will not be supported from December 2018, but I still want to get as up to date as possible.

Exactly what do I need to do?  Do I uninstall v4.8 and then install something else?  My PC runs slow so I don't to add a heavy workload.  Thank you for any help!


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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #97 on: November 17, 2018, 08:37:35 PM »
Follow the Clean Install link and instructions in my signature.
Now is a great time since Avast just released the last version that can be used on XP.
Subsequent version updates will not work on anything older that Windows 7
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #98 on: November 17, 2018, 08:46:43 PM »
I'm new to this thread and want to update my old Avast 4.8 on WinXP/SP3.  I understand XP will not be supported from December 2018, but I still want to get as up to date as possible.

Exactly what do I need to do?  Do I uninstall v4.8 and then install something else?  My PC runs slow so I don't to add a heavy workload.  Thank you for any help!


This is what my Avast says:
Avast! version 4.8 Home Edition - free antivirus,  Build:  Sep2009 (4.8.1.1368),  Xtreme toolkit version  1.9.4.0
VPS file:  compilation date  03-03-2017, File version  170303-1



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Hi

I would advise that the new/er versions of Avast require significantly more resources to function as the software has added greatly improve security techniques and components that simply were not part of earlier (4.80) versions

In addition, if you decide to proceed, use the "Custom" install option (not defautl) so you can choose what component to Check (install) and what you want to Uncheck (not use).
More components more resources required to funciton



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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2018, 03:30:41 PM »
I would advise that the new/er versions of Avast require significantly more resources to function as the software has added greatly improve security techniques and components that simply were not part of earlier (4.80) versions

In addition, if you decide to proceed, use the "Custom" install option (not defautl) so you can choose what component to Check (install) and what you want to Uncheck (not use).
More components more resources required to funciton

@schmidthouse  Thank you for your kind reply.

I would stay on ver4.8 if other versions are too heavy for my pc but the latest virus signature (fingerprint) file I get is out of date (March 2017).  Can I somehow manually install a more recent signature file?

Alternatively, I could run a later version of Avast purely as a disk scanner and on-demand file scanner by disabling the interactive shield.  I know this isn't the best way to protect a pc but it may be all I can do.  If I did this then which version of Avast would be advisable bearing in mind I don't need the full set of bells and whistles - just a plain anti-virus?

Thanks for any information.






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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2018, 04:15:18 PM »
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@schmidthouse  Thank you for your kind reply.

I would stay on ver4.8 if other versions are too heavy for my pc but the latest virus signature (fingerprint) file I get is out of date (March 2017).  Can I somehow manually install a more recent signature file?

Alternatively, I could run a later version of Avast purely as a disk scanner and on-demand file scanner by disabling the interactive shield.  I know this isn't the best way to protect a pc but it may be all I can do.  If I did this then which version of Avast would be advisable bearing in mind I don't need the full set of bells and whistles - just a plain anti-virus?

Thanks for any information.

Thanks for any help.

Unfortunately the short answer is that you can't.  No longer is it only avast version 4.x that is unsupported but also the virus definitions that are unsupported.

See https://www.avast.com/download-update which shows you what virus definition updates are still available and what program versions they are for.

So there are virus definitions for Avast versions 5 to 8, if you can get one of those versions installed (probably version 8 would be better) then it should work.
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2018, 05:22:57 PM »
The oldest I still have available is v10.3.2225.1172
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2018, 05:29:39 PM »
I would kinda disagree with the assumption that older versions use less resources - on contrary, I'd say the opposite is true (and even more so for the ancient 4.x). New versions bring more and more optimizations to slow down common operations as little as possible.
OK, I admit the user interface grew quite heavy over the time, and there may be some features that cause additional load - but the "core" (i.e. the scanning service with the real-time shields) should be fastest in the latest version of the program.

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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2018, 07:34:16 PM »
Thanks igor for the input, appreciated. :)
With all due respect igor, I don't know the tech specs or in-depth analysis of the Avast software, I can only tell you what I see and feel are the resources used when a version is installed and for my systems the fact is accurate.....the newer versions DO USE more resources. Maybe it's mostly the GUI, I don't know for sure, I can only account for my experience on my specific OS's.
As far as I'm aware, The Behavior Shield, for example, was not included in the earlier version nor was the Anti Ransom or Anti Exploit just to mention a couple of security improvements... These techniques all use extra resources that were not part of the old version stated v. 4.8

I might add that this resource use only become very obvious when using OS's with limited RAM> I don't notice any change on my ENVY with 16 GB of RAM
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Re: End of support for Windows XP/Vista
« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2018, 07:35:42 PM »
I would advise that the new/er versions of Avast require significantly more resources to function as the software has added greatly improve security techniques and components that simply were not part of earlier (4.80) versions

In addition, if you decide to proceed, use the "Custom" install option (not defautl) so you can choose what component to Check (install) and what you want to Uncheck (not use).
More components more resources required to funciton

@schmidthouse  Thank you for your kind reply.


I would stay on ver4.8 if other versions are too heavy for my pc but the latest virus signature (fingerprint) file I get is out of date (March 2017).  Can I somehow manually install a more recent signature file?

Alternatively, I could run a later version of Avast purely as a disk scanner and on-demand file scanner by disabling the interactive shield.  I know this isn't the best way to protect a pc but it may be all I can do.  If I did this then which version of Avast would be advisable bearing in mind I don't need the full set of bells and whistles - just a plain anti-virus?

Thanks for any information.


Thanks for any help.

You're welcome
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