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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2019, 10:57:33 PM »
It is normal for resident avast AV to disable some of the functionality of Windows Defender.
But be prepared for all eventualities.

Two resident av-solutions won't and cannot work together,
It is just like having two mean dogs in from of the parlor for better protection.
They are going after each other in stead of after the threats you may have in the form of malcode.

Turn Windows Defender full on if for some reason or other your avast solution won't function properly.
We have come across such incidents rarely in the past years.
For instance the mishap that avast will FP files critical for windows to function properly.

Only in such cases it is a good thing to disable avast resident for a while,
and to let Windows Defender temporarily come back to do the job.

When avast comes out of such mishaps and sounds the all green again,
bring up your old av solution of choice again.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2019, 01:10:19 AM »
It is normal for resident avast AV to disable some of the functionality of Windows Defender.
But be prepared for all eventualities.

Two resident av-solutions won't and cannot work together,
It is just like having two mean dogs in from of the parlor for better protection.
They are going after each other in stead of after the threats you may have in the form of malcode.

Turn Windows Defender full on if for some reason or other your avast solution won't function properly.
We have come across such incidents rarely in the past years.
For instance the mishap that avast will FP files critical for windows to function properly.

Only in such cases it is a good thing to disable avast resident for a while,
and to let Windows Defender temporarily come back to do the job.

When avast comes out of such mishaps and sounds the all green again,
bring up your old av solution of choice again.

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It isn't Avast that disables Defender. Defender shuts most of itself down when a third party AV like Avast is installed. :)
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2019, 06:06:27 PM »
Hi bob3160,

OK, when Windows Defender is the initiator there, whener it finds out about you running a resident AV solution of sorts.

On the other hand, would not it be great to have a fall-back to Windows Defender mechanism
under such rare occasions when your resident AV meets with an emergency update,
that FPs and so breaks critical Windows files,  so you cannot run to use your computer any longer.

Under such circumstances a fall-back to disabling the resident AV and bringing Windows Defender full strength back up again,
until your AV misery has been settled by a new update,  would be a welcome emergency scenario.
Cannot they bring that in.

We had such a tragic scenario twice in the past and some thanked G*d they missed such updates,
(DavidR for instance and little old me at the time), because they had not touched their device and missed that bad update,
and so never met the scr*wed-up definitions and situation.  ;D

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2019, 04:41:18 PM »
Sorry Dameon but I don't know what question you are asking or if it is actually a question.
I simple corrected your statement as to what turns of what. :)
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2019, 06:29:07 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Rightly so. Thanks. I and that issue stand corrected.

My additional question was if Defender shuts itself down when experiencing a resident AV solution,
cannot it come back up again when the resident AV through a False Positive on critical OS files for instance wrecks the Windows OS.
Would be a handy feature for such circumstances and in the meantime we could wait for safe and secure updates.
Should this be addressed to Microsoft or to avast?

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2019, 10:17:01 PM »
Hi bob3160,

Rightly so. Thanks. I and that issue stand corrected.

My additional question was if Defender shuts itself down when experiencing a resident AV solution,
cannot it come back up again when the resident AV through a False Positive on critical OS files for instance wrecks the Windows OS.
Would be a handy feature for such circumstances and in the meantime we could wait for safe and secure updates.
Should this be addressed to Microsoft or to avast?

Damian
Should be addressed to both.
If Avast would totally shut down when there is a problem, Defender would turn itself back on.
When there is only a part of Avast that's no longer working or, if Avast isn't up to date,
Defender issues a warning only but doesn't start up.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2019, 03:31:22 PM »
Bob,

Exception is that Defender does NOT disable itself when another AV is installed on Windows Server platforms. When Avast or other AV is there it still runs and you have to take steps to remove it from the windows features settings.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2019, 07:05:13 PM »
Bob,

Exception is that Defender does NOT disable itself when another AV is installed on Windows Server platforms. When Avast or other AV is there it still runs and you have to take steps to remove it from the windows features settings.

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