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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2019, 10:59:01 PM »
From what I've read and discussed when it comes to "data mining" there is no privacy.
If you're on the internet your data (personal or otherwise) is out there and collectable regardless of settings.
"Privacy" is a non-issue, as there isn't any.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2019, 06:54:25 PM »
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2019, 10:01:22 PM »
So should i reinstall Avast, and disregard Local PC Shop techs advice that was just stick to Defender for protection when i had laptop in for a minor issue/dust cleanout a month ago


Wondering if Defender also can affect performance in games,  in GTA V online, when i used it a bit on the laptop,  didn't get many kills during the shooting aspects, i have since moved that game over to the gaming Desktop and i do a little better than i did in the past

I tend to believe as well other forums that i visit at times to read computer news, and almost end up using Defender when i know it's probably not the best antivirus.     
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2019, 10:52:19 PM »
Ultimately it's your computer and your choice. We can't do more than offer our opinions.
It's up to you to either take them or not. You should also be guided by your past experience with Avast.



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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2019, 05:41:40 AM »
So should i reinstall Avast, and disregard Local PC Shop techs advice that was just stick to Defender for protection when i had laptop in for a minor issue/dust cleanout a month ago


Wondering if Defender also can affect performance in games,  in GTA V online, when i used it a bit on the laptop,  didn't get many kills during the shooting aspects, i have since moved that game over to the gaming Desktop and i do a little better than i did in the past

I tend to believe as well other forums that i visit at times to read computer news, and almost end up using Defender when i know it's probably not the best antivirus.   

Patrick, there is no best anti-virus, all the top ones are always very close to each other in testing, find what works best on your computer. Defender has improved tremendously the past year or so, some say it affects performance , other say not, so I go back to find what works best for you. One thing with Defender is that you will get no pop-ups trying to up sell you products or no bloatware. A lot of them have free trials so you can test them on your rig, just be sure to uninstall them completely before trying anything else, a lot have uninstall tools.So whether it be Avast, Defender or something else its up to you to find your best solution.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2019, 02:45:03 AM »
Thank you @digmor crusher   I'll check out how performance is with a few trials,  who knows at the end of the trials and full removals with the providers tools, i may end up determining Avast Free still meets all my needs for all the systems in the household.      One system we do our online banking on so concerned a little on that,   Gaming systems so far trying out Defender,  whether protected enough remains to be seen,  but Few scans, and Malwarebytes Full scan, nothing found at all on any system

I tend to believe other comments i see around the web, and i got a little uneasy with Avast for some reason, can't really explain it,  but who knows might decide its for the best for me in the coming week or two here.   Though i do like the no ad aspect, or bloatware so far

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2019, 11:45:42 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2019, 11:47:48 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2019, 12:16:56 AM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
Your computer, your choice. Certainly not mine. :)

It wouldn't be my choice either.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2019, 03:34:23 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
Your computer, your choice. Certainly not mine. :)

It wouldn't be my choice either.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose. I don't run traditional AVs, or AM programs. But my solution to that is a whole lot more technical and in depth.

I have a Win 10 VM for day to day activities (YT, Email, Social Media, etc). CentOS, Win 7, KALI for testing purposes on their own VMs. Running that is the host system, which is exclusively used for playing games/streaming/recording (VMs don't play well with graphics cards, unfortunately). Then there is a physically separate network running an AD network (upgraded laptop serving as the DC) with 4 desktops/laptops running under it (with varying levels of permissions).

So the risk to the host machine is (while not zero), far less then your average user. It's the VMs that are "at risk", and they have snapshots created on a bi-weekly basis.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2019, 04:07:50 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
That is the combo the dews at Malwarebytes use, premium +  defender




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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2019, 05:58:02 PM »
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Different strokes for different folks I suppose. I don't run traditional AVs, or AM programs. But my solution to that is a whole lot more technical and in depth.

I have a Win 10 VM for day to day activities (YT, Email, Social Media, etc). CentOS, Win 7, KALI for testing purposes on their own VMs. Running that is the host system, which is exclusively used for playing games/streaming/recording (VMs don't play well with graphics cards, unfortunately). Then there is a physically separate network running an AD network (upgraded laptop serving as the DC) with 4 desktops/laptops running under it (with varying levels of permissions).

So the risk to the host machine is (while not zero), far less then your average user. It's the VMs that are "at risk", and they have snapshots created on a bi-weekly basis.

Yes different strokes for different folks, but your setup is far from conventional, so a different stroke for you ;)

For most users they need all of the help they can get from conventional sources.  Doing what you do might be beyond their comfort zones.

I could probably get away with a similar setup as yours, but I have never been inclined to go down the VM route. 

I do weekly drive image update and keep the last 6 generations (saved of the system) I also do multiple daily backups of volatile files (using a batch file and a tool called mirror.exe), documents, emails, images, downloads, bookmarks, etc. 

Malware, isn't the only thing that people have to prepare/plan for.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2019, 07:53:29 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
That is the combo the dews at Malwarebytes use, premium +  defender
Bet that's not what the developers at Avast use.
Do you really think that on the Avast support forum we really care what the dev. @ MB use?
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2019, 08:04:13 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html
That is the combo the dews at Malwarebytes use, premium +  defender
Bet that's not what the developers at Avast use.
Do you really think that on the Avast support forum we really care what the dev. @ MB use?
Yepp i know several avast users that do ....






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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2019, 08:22:34 PM »
Opinions on this article regarding Antiviruses and Windows Defender protection, so many people I speak to, consult with for PC tech issues, local shops, all keep telling me to drop Avast, and just rely on Defender, and Malwarebytes.    So far have kept Avast installed, but it's tempting at times just to use Defender for protection


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3434097/why-you-can-stop-paying-for-antivirus-software.html

Avast is Free.
So the info. from the link isn't, imo relevant
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