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Offline New_Style_xd

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Avast vs Windows Defender
« on: September 29, 2018, 06:50:15 PM »
1- Did you wonder if Avast has the largest database of Windows Defender than Microsoft?
2- Since Microsoft is installed around the world, I understand that the largest database is hers, because of collecting threats with great volume.
3- Microsoft it uses several servers to do analysis, according to the link that I will put below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps9ntazo1v0
4 - The work this man who is speaking in the video and great, he has Microsoft's MVP, with what he says has a lot of basis in what it says about security.
5. Did Windows Defender become the safest for reasons he explained?
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2018, 11:11:03 AM »
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=217477.0

PS: Most of us don't speak your language, so we can't comment the video.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2018, 12:08:58 PM »
Hi Asyn, this vid we can all understand, it is visual : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHKHZnH9bm8

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2018, 01:49:59 PM »
Hi Pol, personally IDC about such videos (esp. outdated ones from 2016 ;)).
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 02:42:23 PM »
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2018, 02:53:52 PM »
Size is an imponderable and not something that you can use as a definitive answer to who has the most or best database.

Avast is constantly optimising its database, tweaking signatures to detect more than a single virus signature. 

If there was a single detection signature for every piece of malware, the database file size would be massive.  This would make it pretty unwieldy and slow.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 04:36:32 AM »
I would also add, that regardless of size of data base for known virus' (whoever has the larger) malware detection is very much now more about Heuristics, AI and Behavior analysis/detection components.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2018, 07:05:45 PM »
Thanks for the clarification on the subject of the virus database.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2018, 01:22:08 AM »
You're welcome.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 05:18:24 PM »
One should also take in consideration PUP detection and blocking suspicious destinations like PHISHING sites,
just there where cybercriminal activities lure.

Windows Defender does not equal normal AV in these respects nor even has Google Safebrowsing grade protection.
See Pondus's response on this matter. So Windows Defender is even catching up here. ;)

Of course one adds a good ad- and script blocker to the browser like uBlock Origin and uMatrix,
or MBAM alerts for certain content alerts.

Moreover I write this post inside the Avast Secure Browser and there is a reason for that too.

Windows Defender is not bad for the moments that your AV for one reason or another does not work,
for instance because of critical Window file's FPs, but not under normal conditions.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 08:04:20 PM »
Windows Defender does not equal normal AV in these respects nor even has Google Safebrowsing grade protection.
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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 10:29:24 PM »
Hi Pondus,

Thanks for given the latest information on this. Apart from this, what is the actual difference between Windows Defender and free AV?
Is it heuristics or can they be compared on an equal basis?

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 11:16:09 PM »
If you check AV compare they are doing very good

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2019, 07:58:24 PM »
The thing i saw is that avast setup often freeze windows defender and launching.

You have to turn it on after.

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Re: Avast vs Windows Defender
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2019, 10:57:33 PM »
It is normal for resident avast AV to disable some of the functionality of Windows Defender.
But be prepared for all eventualities.

Two resident av-solutions won't and cannot work together,
It is just like having two mean dogs in from of the parlor for better protection.
They are going after each other in stead of after the threats you may have in the form of malcode.

Turn Windows Defender full on if for some reason or other your avast solution won't function properly.
We have come across such incidents rarely in the past years.
For instance the mishap that avast will FP files critical for windows to function properly.

Only in such cases it is a good thing to disable avast resident for a while,
and to let Windows Defender temporarily come back to do the job.

When avast comes out of such mishaps and sounds the all green again,
bring up your old av solution of choice again.

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