Thank you @digmor crusher I'll check out how performance is with a few trials, who knows at the end of the trials and full removals with the providers tools, i may end up determining Avast Free still meets all my needs for all the systems in the household. One system we do our online banking on so concerned a little on that, Gaming systems so far trying out Defender, whether protected enough remains to be seen, but Few scans, and Malwarebytes Full scan, nothing found at all on any system
I tend to believe other comments i see around the web, and i got a little uneasy with Avast for some reason, can't really explain it, but who knows might decide its for the best for me in the coming week or two here. Though i do like the no ad aspect, or bloatware so far