DAVID R - Win 10 Update patch arrived today including the faulty October update

[HPY]

I address this to you David since you mentioned you were awaiting "your turn at the barrel" for this patch.
It took an hour and a half to download and was categorised as a Quality Update.
Explorer properties tell me that this process had used up about 20 GB of my device's (similar to yours) disc space.
I noted that I could clean 20 GB from my System files, but Windows warned me that this would make a return to the earlier version impossible.
Personally, I think my botched attempts to install this very patch instead of "waiting my turn" accounts for the unnecessary bulge.
I am tempted to do the logical thing and wipe that 20 GB off the machine as useless ballast.
Any thoughts, please....and happy new year!

[mchain]

Hi HPY,

As it is now about 9:12 PM where DavidR lives, maybe perchance he'll answer tomorrow?

Best advice is to leave things alone for a bit, just in case you find you need to revert? 

A week of daily use should suffice.  As always, a back up imaging strategy is always best.

[bob3160]

Unless you created an image backup prior to the update, I suggest that you leave that useless 20 gig alone
till you know everything is working properly.
I've long since gotten rid of the old stuff but, I also had a backup that I could rely on and, I never had any problems even though
I was a very early updater to v1809.

[HPY]

Hi mchain,

Thanks for the words of caution, but the 20 GB of swell for this and a few of my Office products is ridiculous. I will wait to hear whether David experienced this.
I doubt very much that he did, as I still think it was the system's attempts to rectify something I botched a month ago that I would be well rid of.

BTW how do I do a back up image for what was there before the update, which I could store on an external disk?

[HPY]

Hi bob,

Thanks. Everything is working fine, but as mchain and you say, I will leave it a while before I wipe it. It must be the result of my mistake a month ago.

[DavidR]

@ HPY
First thanks the creation of the topic for notification, I will check a little later and see if it is available.  After I have done a system backup.

As for the 20GB, that may well be the same as the old (excuse the pun) windows.old location to enable a roll back to the earlier OS version.  As Bob mentions for now it is best left alone.  On my Win10 laptop, the primary SSD is 256GB and has just over 200GB of free space and I have a 1TB secondary HDD disk. For now space isn't an issue on my system.

[HPY]

"As for the 20GB, that may well be the same as the old (excuse the pun) windows.old location to enable a roll back to the earlier OS version"
Yes the 20GB  did seem a bit of a coincidence:)
I would be interested to hear whether your system makes the same assessment once you have time to try this new update.

[DavidR]

No news on the update yet, I checked and my win10 system wasn't reporting an update is available, etc.  A manual check for updates reports 'You're up to date.'  However winver reports Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.472).

[HPY]

I always click on Search for Updates  - 'nach Updates suchen' in my case:-). That is how it appeared, then downloaded and installed fully on reboot...it took nearly 2 hours. It has been bedded in for one day now, and seems to function very well.

I have just checked "winver" and it says 1809 (Build 17763.195)

It is odd that you did not get it. I do the manual check each Wednesday.

BTW how do I navigate to my comment history, because we discussed this October patch in November (I think)?

[DavidR]

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It is odd that you did not get it. I do the manual check each Wednesday.

BTW how do I navigate to my comment history, because we discussed this October patch in November (I think)?

1.  I do periodic checks also, but for the most part, my check either has an update waiting, or the check reveals I'm up to date.  I have had monthly updates, security/cumulative but no notification of 1809.

2.  Go to your Profile summary and click the Show Posts, then you will have to flip through them, they are in chronological order.

[HPY]

Win 10 version 1809 has bedded down without problems for over 2 weeks (Build 17763.253), then came the Wednesday automatic updates so system is now on 1809 Build 17763.253. I checked the system cleaner to get rid of the previous version that I may have slightly corrupted, and noticed that the automatic system updates are more comprehensive, including for the first time (I think) the Windows spyware removal tool. The system files cleaner did not list that 20 GB of the old version that I wanted to remove, but did remove the fewer GBs related to update files.

More general question :
I like Windows Defender which plays well with my Avast. I noticed ion my weekly manual check for update, that the last one for Defender was 09.01. It updated once daily normally.
So I wondered why it had stopped. Could it be my over-zealous habit of using the system cleaner, in which I tick all items over 10 MB? Maybe I cleaned out a function that is vital for keeping WD up to date.

I am also thinking of downloading the Windows spyware removal tool as a precaution https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/malicious-software-removal-tool-details.aspx . It is probably also possible to download WD independently, which would possibly kick-start the  WD on my system that has stopped.

[bob3160]

Win 10 version 1809 has bedded down without problems for over 2 weeks (Build 17763.253), then came the Wednesday automatic updates so system is now on 1809 Build 17763.253. I checked the system cleaner to get rid of the previous version that I may have slightly corrupted, and noticed that the automatic system updates are more comprehensive, including for the first time (I think) the Windows spyware removal tool. The system files cleaner did not list that 20 GB of the old version that I wanted to remove, but did remove the fewer GBs related to update files.

More general question :
I like Windows Defender which plays well with my Avast. I noticed ion my weekly manual check for update, that the last one for Defender was 09.01. It updated once daily normally.
So I wondered why it had stopped. Could it be my over-zealous habit of using the system cleaner, in which I tick all items over 10 MB? Maybe I cleaned out a function that is vital for keeping WD up to date.

I am also thinking of downloading the Windows spyware removal tool as a precaution https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/malicious-software-removal-tool-details.aspx . It is probably also possible to download WD independently, which would possibly kick-start the  WD on my system that has stopped.

Defender plays well with Avast (and all other 3rd party Av's) because it turns itself off when Avast is installed.
You can still use Defender on demand but, it's not resident.

[HPY]

Hi Bob,

I am sure you are right, but Avast has been and is constantly installed and running since I bought the computer new a few months ago. Windows (presumably via Defender) warns you if the primary AV (Avast) is not 'on'.

I just thought it odd that according to system updates Defender was receiving its daily updates from late December when Win 10 version 1809 installed itself until they stopped on January 9th.