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Offline Rick F

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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2006, 02:52:43 PM »
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just be certain to use version 6.1.744.001

No way can I use that version. I've had no success with ZAP after they went to ver-5.  Had to drop back to my current version (see below).  That was too bad too as I paid for a 2 year license... only got to use one of those year's of updates.

I like ZAP and its privacy service with cache cleaner so don't want to switch to the 'free' version.

There's got to be something in the .869 update (and then continued in the next one) that is causing this problem with Win98 SE combination with ZAP.

Where's igor or Vlk?
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2006, 03:23:29 PM »
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just be certain to use version 6.1.744.001

No way can I use that version. I've had no success with ZAP after they went to ver-5.  Had to drop back to my current version (see below).  That was too bad too as I paid for a 2 year license... only got to use one of those year's of updates.

I like ZAP and its privacy service with cache cleaner so don't want to switch to the 'free' version.

There's got to be something in the .869 update (and then continued in the next one) that is causing this problem with Win98 SE combination with ZAP.

Where's igor or Vlk?

Like you I have also had many problems with ZA Pro newer versions, I've always gone back to a certain very stable version, even uninstalling this and cleaning out the registry does not help. What surprises me is that Avast know what has been changed but are not saying or cannot for some reason. It would be nice to update the main Executable and required files, but as it stands at the moment I cannot do that.

Yes, where is Igor or Vik?

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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2006, 06:46:18 PM »
Hello,

Sorry - been away for a while.

Thanks to those who sent an answer.

Reply #35 on: 11-08-2006 from Tech

Quote from: magma on 11-08-2006, 23:29:52
1. At every start-up I get a pop-up which says:
>> Standard Shield detected suspicious operation : write file : avast/setup/setiface.dll : yes // no //  ignore <<
You've changed the Behavior Blocker. As you seem cannot change back to the default values, you can, uninstall avast and install again.

->Ok but where do I find the “Behavior Blocker” – I have re-installed already with no change.

Quote from: magma on 11-08-2006, 23:29:52
2. I cannot change any of the settings in "settings"
Why? What's the error message?

->no error message – whatever changes are made to those in “Common” don’t stay changed but change back following closure. I believe the other setting are ‘changeable’ but I’ve not tried them all as I don’t want to upset anything.

Quote from: magma on 11-08-2006, 23:29:52
3. The user interfaces hang on the screen for some minutes after attempting to close them, either before or after scanning.
How many seconds does this freeze take?
Did you have any other antivirus in the past?

->45 seconds ish – “On Access Scanner” screen closes immediately, only the main screen takes many seconds to close.
->no other AV progs ever installed on this M/c, only ever used Avast
->Re. stevejm29 - Internet working OK –

Running:
Avast 4.7 home ed (4.7.871)
Kerio Firewall 2.1.5
Adaware SE 1.06r1
Spyware Blaster 3.5.1
Spybot S&D 1.3
   All up-to-date

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Reply #36 on: 12-08-2006 from David R

It is more likely that it was the update from 4.7.844 to 4.7.869 that may (yet to be confirmed) have caused this problem for some win98 users.

->how do I check this out? I assume I've overwritten the 'old' files


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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2006, 07:33:03 PM »
You could visit filehippo.com http://www.filehippo.com/download_avast_antivirus/ they keep old versions so you could install 4.7.844 and see if the problem goes away. Then install 4.7.869 and if it reappears then it is something in .869 not .871.

However the handy thing is the old versions they retain.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2006, 08:33:49 AM »
Thanks for that "hippo link". I unstalled the latest version and then installed 844, and at least now I can do a scan.

Assuming this problem with WIN98 doesn't get solved for awhile (or at all) how risky is to stay with 844 and just keep updating the virus pattern files?
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2006, 01:49:53 PM »
You need to look at the Program Variation History and see if there is something in there that directly effects you. I haven't used win98 in years so I can't say how not updating the program might effect you. I know that the Program AutoUpdate will keep nagging you as it will detect that your version of avast is out of date, needs updating, etc.

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-4-home_pro-revision-history.html
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2006, 04:32:24 PM »
Yes, manual updates and turning off automatic notifications is definitely the way to go in this situation.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2006, 02:20:47 AM »
I set my version (.844) to manual program updates to stop the update nag. It's the only thing we can do until a fix comes about.

I really think this will be a relatively easy fix.  It will take some further testing and I'm willing to try to install the update and provide file info & error logs, but only when either igor or Vlk posts in this thread.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2006, 03:41:30 PM »
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I really think this will be a relatively easy fix. 
First the problem has to be identified before any fix relatively easy or otherwise can be done.

Good luck with the, you will only be prepared to help if Igor or Vlk contribute to the Topic.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2006, 04:54:06 PM »
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I really think this will be a relatively easy fix. 
First the problem has to be identified before any fix relatively easy or otherwise can be done.

Good luck with the, you will only be prepared to help if Igor or Vlk contribute to the Topic.

Oops.  I meant no offense David.  Just meant that the guys from ALWIL may need info from error logs or file info.  You've alway been a big help here David.  ;D I appreciate it.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2006, 05:18:59 PM »
No offence taken, the wording of the post just looks like applying pre-conditions to your helping.

What may help would perhaps be another Topic (Win98 Problem - User Specifications, etc.) where those experiencing this problem can post the details of their system, e.g. win98, win98se, firewall, any other security software, etc. and perhaps we can see if there is any common factor other than simply running win98 and avast.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2006, 07:52:44 PM »
To have this simulated, we'd need the old version of ZA that seems to be necessary for the problem to occur. Anyone willing to lend his copy for testing purposes?

I suppose it should cause the problem even with a trial license, so you don't even have to provide us with your licensing info. Just the setup binaries.


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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2006, 07:56:58 PM »
You could get the old version of the free ZA from filehippo.com http://www.filehippo.com/download_zonealarm_free/.
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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2006, 10:33:30 PM »
I guess so - if only I knew which version was muggles using, exactly. :)
(sorry if this has already been posted somewhere - right now, I don't see it anywhere).

And also, I think he's using ZA Pro (although I have no idea if that makes any difference).


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Re: Win98SE
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2006, 01:52:00 AM »
Hi Vlk,

Yes, I'm pretty sure he's also using ZAP (P = pro).  He also stated that he's on an older version as I am.  Many users of Win98 had to fall back to version 4.  I'm on ZAP 4.5.594 and have been for about a year.  Version 5 caused crashes on my OS.

I do have the installation file still on my HDD.  It's almost 5 meg. Not sure I could email that size file as an attachment.  ???

Let me know.  I'm pretty sure you have my email addy.

Thanks for helping on this.

BTW, I just recommended avast to a former customer of McAfee that I helped many times in their forum.  I said if you don't have Win98 with ZAP firewall, it will work great.  Also... my son an engineer just dumped Symantec on his 2 PC's for avast.  As everyone here knows, Norton or Symantec can be a resource hog.
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