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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #135 on: August 24, 2019, 06:14:37 PM »
OK, thanks for the precision.
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #136 on: August 25, 2019, 01:13:41 AM »
Whilst it is called an off-line installer, that can depend on your OS as there are different elements that may require an on-line connection.  Even if using the so called off-line installation file.

If you're talking to me, I have seen that start to happen with Windows Vista at some point, failing the install.  I have not had any issue with other Windows versions, including my current Windows 10 Pro.  I'm talking about disabling my Ethernet hardware device via Device Manager.  This gives the red "x" on the Network Notification Area icon indicating no Internet access.  Such disabling also "sticks" over reboots; the device has to be explicitly enabled to get Internet access back.  So, I think my question about whether the off-line installers are being handled when there are "minor" updates to a version still stands.

I was as my post was directly below yours, if it wasn't I would quote the text I was referring to.

Ordinarily the off-line contains all you would need, but XP/Vista lack a function in later OSes and Avast would have to pack two separate modules to carer for that and they are big.  During installation, it goes on-line and downloads that function/module, it can't do that if you aren't on-line.

I don't know why you would use the off-line installer for a 'minor' update to a program version when you could simply use the in program update function.   Not sure what you would consider a 'minor' update to a program version. Also if that minor update relates to an Avast installation on XP/Vista then this is highly unlikely given it has reached end of support.

I can explain my install methodology choice if you're really interested, but it's not something I'd recommend for most people, where convenience is pretty important.  XP/Vista is a red herring; I understand why "old" stuff can fall into that sort of situation and don't have a big issue with it at all, though calling the result an "off-line installer" is a bit off.  The concern is overlooking keeping the installers in sync, because that is the sort of thing that can happen when most of the focus is on the on-line paradigm, especially for the "minor" case.  By "minor," it was the notion that there was more than one version of 19.7 being referred to by the "latest" reference, apparently without thinking about the off-line installers.

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #137 on: August 25, 2019, 03:05:24 AM »
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I can explain my install methodology choice if you're really interested, but it's not something I'd recommend for most people, where convenience is pretty important.  XP/Vista is a red herring; I understand why "old" stuff can fall into that sort of situation and don't have a big issue with it at all, though calling the result an "off-line installer" is a bit off. 

The concern is overlooking keeping the installers in sync, because that is the sort of thing that can happen when most of the focus is on the on-line paradigm, especially for the "minor" case.  By "minor," it was the notion that there was more than one version of 19.7 being referred to by the "latest" reference, apparently without thinking about the off-line installers.

Outside of those on the Avast beta stream, there has only been one regular program release for 19.7 (that is 19.7.2388), as in release through either the Avast UI program update or downloading (using the links at the top of this topic) either the full off-line or an on-line installation method.
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2019, 10:14:39 PM »
...Outside of those on the Avast beta stream, there has only been one regular program release for 19.7 (that is 19.7.2388), as in release through either the Avast UI program update or downloading (using the links at the top of this topic) either the full off-line or an on-line installation method.

Because I control when updates are installed and benko wrote:
...Version 19.7 is not spread yet, only few percents of users have it. The absolute majority of users would be migrated next week and by then the fix will be applied.....

I thought I should wait for an updated off-line installer, and when benko then wrote:
...- In the latest 19.7 version, separated data consent, the new entry in Personal Privacy settings (...analysis of product performance and usage) now mirrors the setting of original (merged) data sharing property. So if the previous one was off, both are off now....

I assumed, evidently incorrectly, that this corrected "latest 19.7 version" had been pushed out to users; so I was concerned that the off-line installer appeared to be the same as when originally released.  I also assumed that if the "uncorrected" 19.7 version was installed, the new entry would be checked and subsequent updates would likely leave it checked.  (It's not impossible to do something like keeping track of the last manually-set value so a later version could take that into account.)

Anyway, I have since unchecked the old combined entry (was checked due to my indifference, e.g. opt out had succeeded in leaving it set previously); then applied the off-line installer I had in hand.  The new checkbox was indeed checked as expected.
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #140 on: August 26, 2019, 11:36:35 PM »
I just made the mistake of installing Avast Premium Security yesterday on home built desktop PC with Windows 10 Pro and that was a big mistake.  How can I go back to the previous version?

These are the issues I have so far:

1. On the reboot after install it hung forever. It took several attempts of rebooting to get the machine going again. 
2. Now, unless I keep pressing the F8 key numerous times during bootup, my MS USB keyboard will not function after bootup, is not shown in Control Panel devises, and cannot be found when search for, but the "on light is green" so it gets power, just not there. Even if I try all the USB plugs.  But if I keep pressing the F8 key during startup then the keyboard works.  Go figure that one!
3. I no longer can access my 3 remote analog security cams on DVR. They require the old browser IE and ActiveX to view on a PC.  Yes, I went into Avast and checked IE Browser and all Cam related apps I could see listed as approved apps.  ActiveX was not on the list to check though.  Yes, I went into the browser security and rechecked the ActiveX items that mysteriously became unchecked.   Yes, I stuck in the URL's of my cameras into Avast to allow those URL's, as well as in the browsers security settings as safe URL's too!  Yes, I cleared the browser cache.  No, the activeX software still will not open when I put in the URL's of my camera's into IE.  I'm NOT HAPPY THAT I CANNOT MONITOR PROPERTY FROM MY PC NOW SINCE THE NEW AVAST ULTIMATE INSTALL!
4. I ran "sfc /scannow" and that did not fix anything. I haven't run all my software yet to find if other issues, but these issues are plenty annoying enough so far, and I would like to go back to previous version of Avast, as not so buggy. How do I do that???
5. I also hate this forum security Verification letters, they are way to blurred out to read, and the "Listen to the letters" does not indicate if caps or not!  So, it takes multiple attempts to post anything!!!
Security verification is there for the first 3 posts to prevent spammers.
Make sure your firewall setting is set to private.
You can also try the following: Repair & Clean Install of Avast -> https://goo.gl/t7aJGq

Thanks for link, but can I do that while it's now stuck on most of the day so far with: "Your Avast is activating advanced security features"?  And there is no "-", so if I "X" out will it go back to perpetual "Your Avast is activating advanced security features" when I reboot, like it does for others?  It's in my way otherwise!

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2019, 10:04:31 PM »
strange i opened avast and it had 2 options ignore and restart, why does it ask restart if i didn't have any big update that needs restart? cant find any trace of update not avast under setting and not in control panel add or remove programs list

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2019, 10:46:28 PM »
strange i opened avast and it had 2 options ignore and restart, why does it ask restart if i didn't have any big update that needs restart? cant find any trace of update not avast under setting and not in control panel add or remove programs list
Emergency update? I also needed to install my Avast Omni earlier today.
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #143 on: August 28, 2019, 04:32:14 AM »
strange i opened avast and it had 2 options ignore and restart, why does it ask restart if i didn't have any big update that needs restart? cant find any trace of update not avast under setting and not in control panel add or remove programs list
Maybe??:  https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=229022.0#lastPost  (See Reply #14.)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=229052.0
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=229035.0
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #144 on: August 28, 2019, 08:33:53 AM »
 :( :( :( after the new Avast system update... my computer become very slow....
AvastSvc.exe utilized a lot of my CPU resources and Memory ( 1,151,720K )....
Want to temporary turn off the Avast antivirus also cannot, click on the Avast logo.. the program cannot launch... like hang...
please rectified the problem asap...

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #145 on: August 28, 2019, 08:37:38 AM »
strange i opened avast and it had 2 options ignore and restart, why does it ask restart if i didn't have any big update that needs restart? cant find any trace of update not avast under setting and not in control panel add or remove programs list
Emergency update? I also needed to install my Avast Omni earlier today.


if it updated it did it stealthy aromatically and i don't have auto update on in avast

virus definitions are up to date
Last update
aug 27 2019 

ur application is up to date
Last update
aug 15 2019

so only application updates avast own update shows aug 15

definitions updates never asked restart before

this are the reasons why i asked this question

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2019, 01:24:21 PM »
strange i opened avast and it had 2 options ignore and restart, why does it ask restart if i didn't have any big update that needs restart? cant find any trace of update not avast under setting and not in control panel add or remove programs list
Emergency update? I also needed to install my Avast Omni earlier today.


if it updated it did it stealthy aromatically and i don't have auto update on in avast

virus definitions are up to date
Last update
aug 27 2019 

ur application is up to date
Last update
aug 15 2019

so only application updates avast own update shows aug 15

definitions updates never asked restart before

this are the reasons why i asked this question


This happened with me too. As Sugram22 said never before vdp needed to restart pc, only if is an emergency update but this update normally needs to be present to user saying some info like if is a security update, like solving a CVE (Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures) and or something else. Can Avast update us on this, please?

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2019, 03:52:20 PM »
Hi, just a quick note that:
- In the latest 19.7 version, separated data consent, the new entry in Personal Privacy settings (...analysis of product performance and usage) now mirrors the setting of original (merged) data sharing property. So if the previous one was off, both are off now.
- Privacy policy documentation was updated

Are these changes, reflected in the Free offline installer:
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_offline.exe

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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2019, 04:22:36 PM »
Hi, just a quick note that:
- In the latest 19.7 version, separated data consent, the new entry in Personal Privacy settings (...analysis of product performance and usage) now mirrors the setting of original (merged) data sharing property. So if the previous one was off, both are off now.
- Privacy policy documentation was updated

Are these changes, reflected in the Free offline installer:
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_offline.exe
You'll find the policy spelled out here:
https://www.avast.com/en-us/privacy-policy
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Re: NEW Version: 19.7 (July/August 2019)
« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2019, 04:30:21 PM »
Hi, just a quick note that:
- In the latest 19.7 version, separated data consent, the new entry in Personal Privacy settings (...analysis of product performance and usage) now mirrors the setting of original (merged) data sharing property. So if the previous one was off, both are off now.
- Privacy policy documentation was updated

Are these changes, reflected in the Free offline installer:
http://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_offline.exe
You'll find the policy spelled out here:
https://www.avast.com/en-us/privacy-policy

Sorry, but I was hoping for a simple Yes or No answer.