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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2006, 11:49:30 PM »
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Why could not two different programs get affiliated
They don't even have to be associated just work together.
Since ClamWin is open source and Spyware Terminator is Free, there is no reason why
Spyware Terminator can't utilize the abilities of this open source software to enhance their product but they should be using the latest version and be able to update the virus definitions to make it work properly and keep the users fully protected. IMHO
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2006, 11:55:20 PM »
Hi bob3160,

I don't use the first program, but isn't there an internal updater or an ability to use the latest ClamWin defs?

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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2006, 11:59:42 PM »
Hi bob3160,

I don't use the first program, but isn't there an internal updater or an ability to use the latest ClamWin defs?

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It should all happen when the main program itself is updated but, since they're using an outdated version of ClamWin, I don't see how that's possible. Which is why I posted the questions in their forum.
Till I get a reply, we'll all just have to wait and see.
I do know that they update their spyware definitions often.
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2006, 12:10:03 AM »
Till I get a reply, we'll all just have to wait and see.
They posted there.

I do know that they update their spyware definitions often.
Almost two or three times a week...
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2006, 12:23:06 AM »
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The virus database is updated regularly; however, our development team is currently reviewing the issue presented and will issue an update based on the findings.   

The above quote is their reply to at least a part of the questions I raised.
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2006, 04:59:43 PM »
and source code is posted there ... anyway i find idea of giving ClamAV another use quite refreshing ... within GPL boundary
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2006, 05:59:54 PM »
 :)  Hi all :

      People with a shady past, that include a reputable AV in
      their product, that turns out to be an outdated Engine,
      sounds highly suspicious to me; how about you ?
      And have you ever gone to the front page of any
      antiMALWARE Product, other than "Spyware Terminator",
      and seen pages of "Testimonials" !?
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2006, 07:10:27 PM »
I guess you're entitled to your suspicions Spiritsongs.
The program is working well on my system and they update their
data base frequently. They are also very resposive to questions raised in their forum.
As far as the layout of their website, I guess that's something to bring to their attention or,
maybe that was the choice they made.
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2006, 08:22:51 PM »
For all users, fans, haters or just worried people ...

 there is great roadmap for Spyware Terminator (from developers) which cover WHAT and WHEN comes in future :)

 i wish more developers do this :) (hint hing 4 Vlk  ;D )

http://forum.spywareterminator.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=778&#778
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2006, 05:49:30 AM »
From: Gizmo's Support Alert Newsletter Issue 138, Free Edition, 19th October, 2006

Free Anti-Spyware Program with Active Protection

Ad-Aware and SpyBot Search and Destroy have long been the mainstays in the free anti-spyware utility category but, alas, their stars have fallen in the last year as these once great products have been overwhelmed by the latest generation of malware products. Hopes for another solution were raised when Microsoft bought out Giant's excellent Antispyware product and released it for free. However, these hopes were dashed when Microsoft changed the Giant product into Windows Defender. It was no enhancement; in fact, a step backwards. So I've been keeping my eye out for a new contender, particularly one with good active protection to prevent initial infection. One such product is Spyware Terminator [1]. I've known about it for quite a while but have approached it cautiously as there was a cloud hanging over the reputation of the vendor [2]. Thankfully, that cloud has now been lifted. Installation proved to be very simple as the product has an excellent configuration wizard that walks you through the setup. One option offered is the capacity to harness the open source anti-virus product ClamAV to provide another layer of detection in addition to Spyware Terminator's only inbuilt detection. This is a nice idea; ClamAV is not the most effective AV scanner on the market but it's certainly competent and the additional protection can only be a plus. The Spyware Terminator (ST) user interface is very clean and professional, a complete cut above the amateurish look of products like SpyBot S&D. Perhaps the most impressive aspect of ST is its comprehensive active protection. Over fifty different system variables are monitored in four separate areas.

Additionally, there is a built-in HIPS system that works in a similar manner to products like WinPatrol to prevent programs starting up on your PC or making changes without your knowledge. A nice feature here is the ability to set the HIPS warnings to a level appropriate to user experience. Other HIPS products could do well to offer a similar feature.

Unusually for a free product, ST allows you schedule scans automatically. Updates, too, can be set to automatic.

Scanning proved to be on the slow side. A full spyware scan took 896 seconds to scan 21000 objects while Windows Defender took only 503 seconds to scan 78000 objects. A combined Spyware and AV scan took even longer.

I tested spyware scan detection rates on a limited sample of 110 currently circulating malware products obtained from P2P networks. ST detected around 31% by scan and 49% on execution compared to 34% and 56% for Windows Defender and 42 and 71% for the class-leading product WebRoot SpySweeper. The sample size here is too small to get pedantic but it would be reasonable to say that ST approaches Windows Defender in performance but is a distinct notch below the top commercial anti-spyware products.

This conclusion needs to be qualified. ST has a much stronger HIPS capability than Windows Defender and this provides additional protection for experienced users who now how to interpret and respond to warning messages. Less experienced users will benefit less.

In the technical area ST was less impressive. It can be easily terminated using basic methods; Windows Task Manager was sufficient. It doesn't detect rootkits, can't detect process injection, it doesn't scan within archives and can only handle a limited number of compressed executable schemes. Mind you, most other anti-spyware products perform badly in these areas as well.

Where ST does shine is active protection against hostile web sites. Here it is the HIPS that is carrying the main load but the result is impressive. ST protected my PC against infection at my three standard hostile sites, easily outperforming most other anti-spyware products with the exception of SpySweeper.

In conclusion, Spyware Terminator is an excellent free spyware scanner with useful auxiliary anti-virus capabilities. Its active protection is well ahead of the other major free anti- spyware products: SpyBot, Ad-Aware, and Ewido Free. Its detection rates are good, just a notch behind Windows Defender but well ahead of Ad-aware and SpyBot. It does not, however, approach the rates achieved by the top commercial anti-spyware products.

So do I prefer it to Windows Defender? For users of older Windows systems it's a non-question as Windows Defender will not work on these systems. Windows 2000 and XP users do, however, have a choice. I'd have to say at a technical level I think Spyware Terminator's HIPS gives it the edge however this is offset in my mind by lingering concerns over how a high-support product like this can remain viable as a free product. Freeware, Windows 98 and later, 2.3MB

[1] http://www.spywareterminator.com
[2] http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm#spyterm_note
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2006, 08:15:59 AM »
I have Windows Defender installed recently.  Should I also install Spyware Terminator along with all the other anti spyware programs I have? Also if I do install Spyware Terminator should I uncheck the Clamwin box?  I don't need another AV do I ?  I don't want to cause any conflicts on my system. 
I am wondering if it is time to uninstall Spybot S&D and Adaware as many have remarked that they are falling down in their effectiveness.
I have been very lucky as I have had no Viruses and only few tracking cookies which I delete once a week.

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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2006, 12:36:57 PM »
I'm a believer in the 'you can get too much of a good thing' school of thought and you can go overboard in the protection stakes also. The more security programs you have the more you have to keep up to date, and the more investigation you need to do if they detect something.

I have uninstalled Spybot S&D and installed another anti-spyware program (not spyware terminator), whilst I trial it, the one thing I noticed is that scans are much longer. I was presented with an alert that no other anti-spyware/security program has ever flagged a key logger called SpyWorks (which has been on my system for years), after extensive checking I now consider it a false positive detection of a tool that has been named long before spyware was known about.

Whilst the one I'm trying isn't resident (that is how I have it set-up) in the free version, Spyware Terminator is resident I believe as is Defender so there you have two anti-spyware tools that are resident. My personal view would be only to have one resident anti-spyware program just like AVs.
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2006, 01:38:20 PM »
Whilst the one I'm trying isn't resident (that is how I have it set-up) in the free version, Spyware Terminator is resident I believe as is Defender so there you have two anti-spyware tools that are resident. My personal view would be only to have one resident anti-spyware program just like AVs.
Sure. Just one of them, also to do not take that much resources from your computer.
But, what was my intention to post first? To show that Spyware Terminator, not only for me, is far better than Windows Defender in many ways  8)
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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2006, 02:14:43 PM »
hey tech....like davidr i have only 1 resident or real time spyware program running like my avast! but have a couple of others as scanners only-had spyware terminator on my computer awhile back but took it off because it was reproting too many false positives at that time-do you know if that has improved?? ???

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Re: Spyware Terminator
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2006, 02:18:55 PM »
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