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In light of the recent news about Avast selling our data, what will you do?

Uninstall immediately and find another product.
29 (49.2%)
Go to settings and opt out of all data sharing.
15 (25.4%)
Wait until my subscription expires and go with another product.
7 (11.9%)
Nothing, I'm ok with it.
7 (11.9%)
I don't know what this is about.
1 (1.7%)

Total Members Voted: 59

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Offline Claudiu7

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2020, 10:53:21 AM »
This is another reason why people use old version of Avast!

For a short time I used Avast! v7 ; I am somehow sure that in this version Avast! did not implement any "spying" mechanism.

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2020, 11:51:40 AM »
They shouldn't have done it in the first place,

That's right!

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now they got caught and apologize. Its like me robbing your house, say nothing until the police catch me and then I apologize to you hoping the courts will go easy on me.

I don't get this part, sorry. it's just that I may be missing some facts.
The opt-in mechanism was there. I clearly recall being asked for consensus (which I didn't give) when I installed. I don't feel they tried to steal anything from me.

I remember avast! asking for data sharing when installing it months ago now that I think of it. Hm. Everyone can't say "but you did it without my knowledge" when there was a dialog. Unless there were changes with it along the way as they often change installer content on the fly as it's online type of installer...

In my case the opt in came up and I opted out. When AVAST updated the opt in was checked without my consent. The same goes if you for any reason went from paid to free, it would opt-in without asking. On MAC the opt-out option has not been working since a couple of months back. It's all a very very shady business practice.

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2020, 12:15:46 PM »
They shouldn't have done it in the first place,

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now they got caught and apologize. Its like me robbing your house, say nothing until the police catch me and then I apologize to you hoping the courts will go easy on me.

I don't get this part, sorry. it's just that I may be missing some facts.
The opt-in mechanism was there. I clearly recall being asked for consensus (which I didn't give) when I installed. I don't feel they tried to steal anything from me.

I remember avast! asking for data sharing when installing it months ago now that I think of it. Hm. Everyone can't say "but you did it without my knowledge" when there was a dialog. Unless there were changes with it along the way as they often change installer content on the fly as it's online type of installer...

In my case the opt in came up and I opted out. When AVAST updated the opt in was checked without my consent. The same goes if you for any reason went from paid to free, it would opt-in without asking. On MAC the opt-out option has not been working since a couple of months back. It's all a very very shady business practice.
Interpretation also has a part in this. It depends on how you look at this. Just like a glass of water can be either half full or half empty it's still
the same glass with the same content the difference is in the interpretation.
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2020, 12:33:44 PM »
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #65 on: February 03, 2020, 02:25:36 AM »
Hi, Bob is using avast from time immemorial and so , he is alsways supporting.
the catch in his word, that users should have been informed prior is a catchy point.
i also liked the software, as it would popup and say, that a threat has been blocked message when some sites have malicious content.
Sharing of users information will dent the confidence the user has it in for the long time.
that is the sad part of it.
There is nothing has been said about how they will block the usage of the data , as shared by the leaded company
why there has not been anything on that in this forum
How avast is going to block the further usage of the leaked data of the users, without their consent.
If avast keep mum , by just explaining and apologies, this software company would be missed by so many lover of the golden once software .
please keep mum and loose everything

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2020, 02:42:09 AM »
How do you get back the data that's been shared? You can't.
How do you recover the data that's been gathered form all of the breaches of many large companies? You can't.
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2020, 03:31:21 AM »
Hi, bob, so avast has lost its credibility totally.
there is no excuse , would be from the users
But i did read some of your post, that you need proof that it was leaked in some threads.
i did not read all the threads ofcourse,
does not your reply above , shows that all has been already lost.
Users use a software believing that it is freely available to them with secured support fromthe software and they give consent when downloading the software.
How could a giant company did not foresee something that is going to erode the confidence and edifice of users approval.
So, sorry to search for alternatives.
Exceelent software company with so much potential updates would not know the leakage thro its own juniorcompany.
Bob, what more you need , all the data would be wtith the other companies as well as the data will be sold to price by the receivers.
the only way is to avoid those companies by all the members of the public, whether they use the data or not.
Could you list the the companies , so that users could totally boycott
receivers are also in a way......do not want to mention
avast     .... lost .. a     vast l      ost  of confidence

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2020, 12:18:13 PM »
@jraju,
I never asked for or requested additional proof that the data collection happend.
It happened. It's a fact and it's very disappointing. I asked for some proof that the data that was shared
could actually be traced back to me.
I also know that because of all the other data breaches and collection from many other major companies,
there really isn't any privacy.
Here's a list of breaches just from 2019, https://www.identityforce.com/blog/2019-data-breaches
Non of this changes the fact that Avast should have made the fact that they are collecting (and selling that data anonymized) clearer.
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2020, 12:08:01 AM »
I used avast since i can think... This will be the last days.

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2020, 01:12:52 AM »
looks like the majority is uninstalling the product... by the threads statistics poll

« Last Edit: February 04, 2020, 01:34:04 AM by kenny556 »

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2020, 01:44:51 AM »
looks like the majority is uninstalling the product... by the threads statistics poll

Based on - Total Members Voted: 48
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2020, 02:01:02 AM »
looks like the majority is uninstalling the product... by the threads statistics poll

Based on - Total Members Voted: 48
There's also no way to tell if those that voted actually used the product.
I'm sure however that this will case a large loos of users and will also be a large financial loss to Avast.
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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2020, 01:13:01 PM »
Hi, financial loss is not comparable to the users loss.
All the users will be switching to alternatives soon.
As i already said
AVAST        A    VAST LOST OF CONFIDENCE

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Re: Recent news about Avast selling our data
« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2020, 01:19:21 PM »
Hi, financial loss is not comparable to the users loss.
All the users will be switching to alternatives soon.
As i already said
AVAST        A    VAST LOST OF CONFIDENCE
Not all.

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