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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #195 on: July 23, 2020, 07:23:44 AM »
Quote from: rocksteady on July 22, 2020, 06:23:08 PM
There are quite a few international posters on this forum, so my question still stands, is there a working app out there or is it just fiction.
While we have a working app here (Stopp Corona), currently only 8% have it installed, so it's basically useless.

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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2020, 08:12:47 AM »
Quote from: rocksteady on July 22, 2020, 06:23:08 PM
There are quite a few international posters on this forum, so my question still stands, is there a working app out there or is it just fiction.

In the Netherlands where I live there is an app called " CoronaMelder " in a closed Beta at the moment. I am one of the IOS Beta testers. A nationwide launch is targeted for september 1st.

Greetz, Red.


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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2020, 09:59:08 AM »
Quote from: DavidR on July 23, 2020, 01:27:21 AM
Common as muck, ......
Oh thought you were referring to polonus post about sewage monitoring in The Netherlands.  ;)

Security and privacy aside, still not sure the technology behind phone app's is yet proven accurate and up to the job.
But if few people actually download run the app on their devices, then it is effectively useless.

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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2020, 05:21:09 PM »
Quote from: Asyn on July 23, 2020, 07:23:44 AM
Quote from: rocksteady on July 22, 2020, 06:23:08 PM
There are quite a few international posters on this forum, so my question still stands, is there a working app out there or is it just fiction.
While we have a working app here (Stopp Corona), currently only 8% have it installed, so it's basically useless.


Well the UK trialled their corona track and trace app, in of all places the Isle of White https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight - Area: 380 km² - Population (mid-2019 est.): 141,538.  I don't think it was big enough and the take up of the app would have been very small (if other trails are much to go on) to have been a good trial.

Not long after that, having found some issues and no doubt poor data (low numbers no doubt) the whole thing has been abandoned.  This is not unusual when these words are used together UK Government and Information Technology.  Seems to turn to rat droppings and very expensive rat droppings at that.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #199 on: July 24, 2020, 04:03:57 PM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #200 on: July 24, 2020, 06:23:34 PM »
Quote from: DavidR on July 23, 2020, 05:21:09 PM
...  Seems to turn to rat droppings and very expensive rat droppings at that.
"rat droppings"  Are you hinting that Dutch poo monitoring could be the most technological solution to track and trace?
Can sewage be traced to individual persons and therefore give rise to privacy issues?
I also seem to remember rats being blamed for the Black Death, but that was a different public health crisis and bit before my time.  :)
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #201 on: July 24, 2020, 06:54:51 PM »
Quote from: rocksteady on July 24, 2020, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: DavidR on July 23, 2020, 05:21:09 PM
...  Seems to turn to rat droppings and very expensive rat droppings at that.
"rat droppings"  Are you hinting that Dutch poo monitoring could be the most technological solution to track and trace?
Can sewage be traced to individual persons and therefore give rise to privacy issues?
I also seem to remember rats being blamed for the Black Death, but that was a different public health crisis and bit before my time.  :)

NO, quoting in isolation which detracts from its meaning.

The UK Government has form for screwing up major IT projects, e.g turning to rat sh1t (or rat droppings).
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #202 on: July 25, 2020, 07:02:17 AM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #203 on: July 25, 2020, 11:32:11 AM »
Quote from: Asyn on July 25, 2020, 07:02:17 AM
Quote from: DavidR on July 24, 2020, 06:54:51 PM
The UK Government has form for screwing up major IT projects, e.g turning to rat sh1t (or rat droppings).
Hi Dave, these articles might interest you...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-the-inside-story-of-how-government-failed-to-develop-a-contact-tracing-app-12031282
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-government-admits-its-test-and-trace-programme-is-unlawful-12032136

It makes sad reading, but just shows the problems faced trying to deliver large IT projects.  Usually over Promising (by ministers), Under Achieving, Constantly changing, Massively over budget and or ultimately Abandoned.  Governments make statements, frequently changing (sound bites) not knowing the full problems or exactly what it is they seek to achieve. 

This leads to no clearly defined program specification, so some IT department/Company start working on an unclear specification that is constantly changing (if not abandoned), resulting in either large cost overruns or worse having to pay the full price and no product.
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #204 on: July 25, 2020, 02:25:13 PM »
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« Reply #205 on: July 31, 2020, 01:22:13 PM »
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Re: [COVID-19] - News & Discussion
« Reply #208 on: August 04, 2020, 02:21:57 PM »
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