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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2006, 06:40:06 PM »
Sasha Flash Performance in Safari is Terrible but what about in Firefox?


Bob, Apple will not sell Mac OS X for non-apple hardware for 2 reasons

1)  apple is a HARDWARE company they make most of their money off of the hardware
2)  Mac OS X is so great because Apple controls what hardware it runs on, if they made it avaliable to PC users they would have to support all that hardware floating around and there would be the same driver problems that windows has.
This is probably why Apple will never be to top contender. They think small.
Sell the Software and expose it to Billions. Why do you think Microsoft is so big?

What driver problems are you taking about????  That's an excuse not a true statement.
Is Apple afraid of growth ???
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2006, 06:44:25 PM »
apple tried the clone market (letting other copanies build  machines and sell them with the Mac OS on it) Back in the 90s the result was Apple nearly went out of Business.
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006, 06:46:34 PM »
I mean by driver problems that you must have the driver for each component and on a Mac the drivers are part of OS X and you never have to look for them
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2006, 06:50:14 PM »
Hey guys!

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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2006, 06:54:11 PM »
dont get me started about Bill Gates...... Grrrrrr
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2006, 07:02:18 PM »
Sasha Flash Performance in Safari is Terrible but what about in Firefox?
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Same, I tried like million of times doing everything to force that machine to work fine with flash and nothing helped it. Firefox, Safari and what's called the other one, can't recall..

@David - Flash works perfect on Firefox and any other browser, I ran it even on Flock without any problems. But that stands only for PCs. Mac was asking about Firefox on Apple computers. Unfortunatelly exactly the same story as with Safari. Macs are simply not built to run Flash, or should I say, Mac OS has some issues. Probably deals to much with all those bells and whistles, all those effects. So much of processor time waste on some non-important things, so there is nothing left for such a demanding beast such as Flash is.
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2006, 07:05:02 PM »
dont get me started about Bill Gates...... Grrrrrr

I love that guy, with all his good and bad attributes.  ;D He did something that no one else ever did before.

Anyway... you Kyle are our only hope. Do something regarding those possibilities to run MAC OS on PCs... it is not true that one person can not change the World. It IS very possbile... it's just someone needs to bring that out... out loud.

Forums, newsgroups, whatever it takes... there must be something that can be done. I am also sure if that ever happens, that will be the end of Linux literally.
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2006, 07:06:00 PM »
dont get me started about Bill Gates...... Grrrrrr

Sorry just thought it would be interesting to watch hehe ;)

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2006, 07:13:32 PM »
Sasha- What Bells and whistles are you talking about in Mac OS X that Vista Does not Have? Mac OS X does not hod the processor Even on the Old PowerPC G4 Machine im typing on (see the screenshot below) look at the % of the processor used by the system is less than 5% on an old 800Mhz G4
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2006, 07:16:24 PM »
I see Camino is very very hungry on resources  ...

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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2006, 07:17:35 PM »
yes and remember it is based on firefox
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2006, 07:23:53 PM »
Kyle,
All this still boils down to the fact that Apple seems to be happy with it's 3% market share.
With the attitude it currently has, that is probably all it will ever have.
Now that they are finally using an Intel processor, they have a great opportunity to grow but
apparently have chosen to remain in their tiny little cocoon.
Why not give them a push and show them the light. ???
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2006, 08:19:06 PM »
Sasha- What Bells and whistles are you talking about in Mac OS X that Vista Does not Have? Mac OS X does not hod the processor Even on the Old PowerPC G4 Machine im typing on (see the screenshot below) look at the % of the processor used by the system is less than 5% on an old 800Mhz G4

True, Vista has all those bells and whistles too but I left it our intentionally just because Vista really has no problems with Flash. It plays fast as it does on XP. Mac obviously spends some extra resources on those effects not allowing other important things on screen to run smoothly.
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2006, 09:30:36 PM »
Bob - Apple does want to grow. But they will not open up OS X. Apple tried it in the 90s and nearly went out of business. So that is why apple has that OS X only on Macs attitude

Sasha- i do not know why OS X has problems with flash when running on PowerPC Processors. However I do not think the the flash plugin is native yet (or the apps that create flash as Adobe owns it now and has not released any Universal applications yet) so that is why its horrible on the intel machines. it will really improve once adobe makes it run natively
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Re: Microsoft vs. Apple
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2006, 09:33:09 PM »
Bob to read more about Apples failed attempt at opening up the Mac OS read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_clone
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