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kalexeff

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Windows Defender
« on: September 16, 2006, 07:46:53 PM »
Windows Defender found what it calls a Trojan, listed as CmdLineCM.  The location is C:\System Volume Information\_restore{8357CB77-1DBD-43BC-B2F8-E849AAB0887F}\RP164\A0014551.dll

I think it is the restore file created by avast!  Should I tell Windows Defender to ignore it?  I couldn't find anything about this on line.
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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 08:08:21 PM »
I'm unaware of any restore file created by avast, what makes you think that ?

The c:\System Volume Information folder is a part of the system restore function and as such is protected by windows, so avast can't create restore points, that is a function of system restore. Even if it were to create a restore point it shouldn't be infected with anything. This looks like it is a dll file that have may been deleted from one of the system folders, these are also protected by system restore, so deletions are saved to _restore points and the file name is usually changed to what you see but the file type (.dll) usually remain the same.

The only way to clean infected _restore points is to disable system restore and reboot. This will clear ALL _restore points. Once you have disabled system restore, reboot, scan your PC again and if clear enable system restore.
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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 08:13:46 PM »
I thought this may be part of the Virus Recovery Database (VRDB) feature in avast!  Doesn't it use some sort of "restore" type process to recover files from a virus it can't fix?  I thought I remembered the installation set-up asking me something about creating a restore point for this feature.

Do you use Windows Defender?

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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 08:34:34 PM »
The VRDB is totally unrelated to the system restore _restore points, the VRDB data is kept in the C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\integ\avast.int file.

If the installation asks if you want to create a restore point is it so that in theory you can go back to before avast was installed no good for files that can't be fixed. However, I have so much confidence in the System Restore function hat mine is permanently disabled and I use my own means of recovery, in the form of weekly partition/drive images and daily back-ups.

I don't use windows defender, didn't want to be an unpaid beta tester for MS and now it doesn't do so well in comparative tests with other anti-spyware/malware, I think it came last in PC worlds tests. Other paid for options to consider, SpySweeper, CounterSpy that regularly come in the top few in various tests.

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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 08:55:16 PM »
Thanks for your input.  I already use Spybot Search and Destroy.  I just use Windos Defender Beta as a second spyware tool.  (I guess I thought that the MS guys might find a few things that the Open Source guys don't)

I guess I'll let Windows Defender remove the file and see what happens.  I don't use Windows' system restore either.

By the way, I recently removed Norton Internet Security to install avast!  In my opinion, Norton IS is very slow and klunky.  Live Update, which I paid a 1-year subscription for, stopped working after 6 months.  I tried four different fixes supplied by Norton.  After corresponding with Babgalore, India service center for a month, their solution was to BUY an upgrade to my 18 month old software.  WHAT A RIP-OFF!

Now, I recommend to anyone who'll listen not to buy Norton products.

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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 09:24:08 PM »
By the way, I recently removed Norton Internet Security to install avast!  In my opinion, Norton IS is very slow and klunky.  Live Update, which I paid a 1-year subscription for, stopped working after 6 months.  I tried four different fixes supplied by Norton.  After corresponding with Babgalore, India service center for a month, their solution was to BUY an upgrade to my 18 month old software.  WHAT A RIP-OFF!
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Re: Windows Defender
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 10:17:33 PM »
Thanks for your input.  I already use Spybot Search and Destroy.  I just use Windos Defender Beta as a second spyware tool.  (I guess I thought that the MS guys might find a few things that the Open Source guys don't)

I guess I'll let Windows Defender remove the file and see what happens.  I don't use Windows' system restore either.

By the way, I recently removed Norton Internet Security to install avast!  In my opinion, Norton IS is very slow and klunky.  <snip>

Now, I recommend to anyone who'll listen not to buy Norton products.
Well I'm not sure windows defender will be able to remove it from that location as it is a windows protected storage area, if it can remove it, then MS have been holding out on this information from other AVs.

If you have disabled system restore and done a reboot, the C:\System Volume Information folder should be empty (see image) as in the info in my first post.
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The only way to clean infected _restore points is to disable system restore and reboot. This will clear ALL _restore points.

So I would confirm that system restore is in fact disabled, if you have more than one partition/drive you have to disable all.
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