Networking two computers- help please!

[bob3160]

FFW and Tech,
Have either of you checked out the solution I offered right in beginning?

[FreewheelinFrank]

Hi Bob.

I'm assuming that if the computers can't see each other, then the program probably won't help.

I've managed to get the old computer to see itself, but the two computers still can't see each other.

I'm going to do a little more research and see if I can find an answer. I'll keep your program up my sleeve to try later if I don't have any success!

[DavidR]

http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+basics

http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+tutorials

Sorry I can't offer any advice on this I have only ever had one system at a time. Many of my services are disabled using the blackviper guide and I would have to look for what services are required for networking.

[Lisandro]

FFW and Tech,
Have either of you checked out the solution I offered right in beginning?

Bob, I've tested but it will only work in a network with a router and connected to the Internet.
My friend's home network has three computers without Internet access.
By the way, I've tested and fulfill all options posted by Mastertech.
Still without network... there must be something else we're not finding...

[mauserme]

I know this is avoiding the real issue but would it be easier to put a switch in the network and avoid the hassles?  They're inexpensive these days.

[bob3160]

Bob, I've tested but it will only work in a network with a router and connected to the Internet.

Tech,
It supports routers but you don't need one to set up your network...
http://www.networkmagic.com/product/

[Lisandro]

It supports routers but you don't need one to set up your network...

What I've seen in his computer is that I can't 'start' the program if it doesn't find a router... The program stopped at the very first wizard being running...
No way, caput, nothing... maybe I'll test on Monday again. Thanks Bob.
What I really want is a full check-list of networking management. I've tried all solutions and he is about to format and start again 3 computers 

[DavidR]

I know a friend had some problems setting up his peer to peer network and I think it related to using the wrong cable a cat5 cable (standard network cable) when it should have been a crossover cable.

Would something like a crossover cable and something like the old laplink software.

http://www.tucows.com/search?search_terms=pc+transfer&search_scope=win&search_adv=0&search_size=&search_size_multi=b

This one is shareware has a trial period of 30 days http://www.stompsoft.com/easypctransfer.html download the trial you need a crossover cable.

[Lisandro]

Would something like a crossover cable and something like the old laplink software.

Thanks David. I appreciate your efforts.
But the network worked in the past and it's working now, I can ping... there is no cable or hub troubles.
The problem seems to be at 'share' folders, access, security, etc.

Bob, I've tested the Network Magic in my computer and the same. Only when the router is detected it works.
The Network Heath and Security Alerts is giving me a false positive... Maybe a language problem (I'm not using an English Window).
I'm sure there is not any update available...

[DavidR]

Sorry Tech I didn't realise you were also having problems, this suggestion was for Frank.

[bob3160]

Tech did you click on "Learn More" ?
I've never know this program to give me a false positive.

[FreewheelinFrank]

Thanks for the help guys!

My instinct is that any transfer program is not going to wok if I can't get the computers to see each other on the network anyway, but I'll give them a go if I don't have any success today.

Looking into the issue it seems that if the connection doesn't happen, it can be really hard to make it happen. Even on the tech forums, there's a lot of advice along the lines of 'try this- it really shouldn't work- I've no idea why it does work- but it sometimes does'. 

Tech:

Here are a couple of Windows gremlins that can be behind the problem and a couple of diagnostic pages:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/823305/
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/903267

http://www.tomax7.com/mcse/xp_network.htm
http://www.chicagotech.net/nettroublshooting.htm

EDIT:

And here:

http://www.tomax7.com/mcse/troubleshooting_tcp.htm

Looks like I might have to try this:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/removefirewall.htm

[Lisandro]

Tech did you click on "Learn More" ?
I've never know this program to give me a false positive.

I go further on 'Learn More' and I'll get the Windows Update page and then nothing...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/903267
http://www.chicagotech.net/nettroublshooting.htm

Thanks, specially for these links. Very useful. Let's try 

[oldman]

I don't know if there is any new info here

http://www.herongyang.com/win/crossover.html

[Lisandro]

I don't know if there is any new info here
http://www.herongyang.com/win/crossover.html

A crossover cable network is a computer network with two computers connected with a crossover cable.
Indeed my friend has 3 computers joined by a hub, he doesn't use crossover cable but a normal, network one, connected by the hub.