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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2007, 12:22:43 AM »
I up graded to the new version of PC Tools Firewall Plus 2.0.0.9.  Now 2 problems I was having are fixed in this new version.  It keeps getting better, although this new version uses more RAM, 10mb vs 4mb.


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Re: PC Tools Firewall Plus 2.0.0.9 - Vista compatibility
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2007, 02:22:18 AM »
N.B. small but significant change in spec.

"Platforms: Designed for Windows Vista 32-bit, XP, 2000 and 2003 server"

Apparently Vista 64-bit was never actually supported.
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2007, 07:23:20 PM »
PCTools Firewall Pro  v. 2.0.0.12 (FREE) is working like a charm on my Vista Installation.

As easy to use as ZoneAlarm but, can also be rule based for those of you smarter than me... ;D




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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2007, 07:29:33 PM »
it is a great simple easy to use firewall...i replaced the za free on my hp laptop with the pc tools firewall pro and also put it on my quad vista machine....both are working great-glad i could inform you of this firewall bob and now you don't have to wait for a za vista firewall whenever that will be ??? ::)

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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2007, 08:22:55 PM »
PCTools Firewall Pro  v. 2.0.0.12 (FREE) is working like a charm on my Vista Installation.

As easy to use as ZoneAlarm but, can also be rule based for those of you smarter than me... ;D

Have you run it by the usual firewall tests. grc.com 'shields up' and firewallleaktester.com, etc.
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2007, 09:36:23 PM »
davidr-it did paste the shields up test here on my end-all green on the all service ports test :D
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2007, 10:48:12 PM »
Shields Up is fine the other key area is outbound protection and currently the only way to test that is the leak tests.

It would be nice if this would prove to be a competent user friendly freeware firewall to take over from ZA free (if it also supports win9x), which had a great user friendly interface. Unfortunately ZA free is becoming a bit of a bloat-ware monster installing lots of trial applications, not to mention the various issues with the later updates and lack of support for the win9x OSes.
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2007, 10:55:18 PM »
...Unfortunately ZA free is becoming a bit of a bloat-ware monster installing lots of trial applications...

Which is exactly why I continue to recommend 5.5.094 as the ZA Free version to use.

http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/znalm/zaReleaseHistory.html

And, it does work on Win98:

http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=943453

And finally, a good site to bookmark:

http://www.oldversion.com/


« Last Edit: March 15, 2007, 11:05:12 PM by OrangeCrate »

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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2007, 11:10:19 PM »
David the leaktest only works on XP it's not Vista compatible....
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2007, 11:13:25 PM »
David the leaktest only works on XP it's not Vista compatible....

Well, why not?  ;D

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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2007, 11:14:32 PM »
@ OrangeCrate
I generally don't like recommending Old versions of Security software, especially if the updates were security related, rather than adding more bells and whistles, unfortunately it is many years since I used ZA.

For me some of these issued that were fixed may have improved things rather than just bells and whistles.
Quote from: ZA Version history detail extract
New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.1.744.000
    * Fixed - Service stability issue
    * Fixed - Communicate with the centralized server issue
    * Fixed - Overlapped text in support and update information
    * Fixed - Various other bug fixes

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.1.737.000
    * Fixed - Compatibility issues with Adaptec USB driver
    * Fixed - Nortel VPN can not connect
    * Fixed - Compatibility issue when System Mechanic Startup Guard is enabled
    * Fixed - PdaNet can't connect
    * Fixed - VSNET 2003 issues
    * Fixed - TrueVector application error in event viewer log
    * Fixed - High vsmon CPU usage
    * Fixed - "Deny" Button in program alert pushed off the edge
    * Fixed - Icons lost in program list after upgrade
    * Fixed - PC Cillin 2006 issue
    * Fixed - System stability issues
    * Fixed - Various other bug fixes

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm Antivirus version 6.0.667.000
    * Fixed - POP email not working when co-existing with NAV
    * Fixed - Free ZA blocking some Remote access software from accessing ZA Alert notifications
    * Fixed - Propel compatibility issue
    * Fixed - Multiple 'loopback' entries in firewall zones after upgrade

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm Antivirus version 6.0.631.003
    * Fixed network detection issue.

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.0.631.002

    * Routine maintenance items

Thanks Bob, my concerns were also if it is compatible for older OSes as I couldn't find a system requirements on the PCTools site
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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2007, 11:20:55 PM »
Version 1.2 of leaktest is Vista compatible and
PC Tools Firewall Passed the test



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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2007, 11:22:29 PM »
@ OrangeCrate
I generally don't like recommending Old versions of Security software, especially if the updates were security related, rather than adding more bells and whistles, unfortunately it is many years since I used ZA.

For me some of these issued that were fixed may have improved things rather than just bells and whistles.
Quote from: ZA Version history detail extract
New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.1.744.000
    * Fixed - Service stability issue
    * Fixed - Communicate with the centralized server issue
    * Fixed - Overlapped text in support and update information
    * Fixed - Various other bug fixes

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.1.737.000
    * Fixed - Compatibility issues with Adaptec USB driver
    * Fixed - Nortel VPN can not connect
    * Fixed - Compatibility issue when System Mechanic Startup Guard is enabled
    * Fixed - PdaNet can't connect
    * Fixed - VSNET 2003 issues
    * Fixed - TrueVector application error in event viewer log
    * Fixed - High vsmon CPU usage
    * Fixed - "Deny" Button in program alert pushed off the edge
    * Fixed - Icons lost in program list after upgrade
    * Fixed - PC Cillin 2006 issue
    * Fixed - System stability issues
    * Fixed - Various other bug fixes

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm Antivirus version 6.0.667.000
    * Fixed - POP email not working when co-existing with NAV
    * Fixed - Free ZA blocking some Remote access software from accessing ZA Alert notifications
    * Fixed - Propel compatibility issue
    * Fixed - Multiple 'loopback' entries in firewall zones after upgrade

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm Antivirus version 6.0.631.003
    * Fixed network detection issue.

New and improved features in ZoneAlarm version 6.0.631.002

    * Routine maintenance items

So David, would you care to point out to me on that list, what exactly improves those upgraded versions' ability to be a firewall?

It looks like system stability issues and bug fixes to me... Right?

Edit:

By the way, virtually all of their changes since being acquired by Check Point have been "bells and whistles". It's been the same basic firewall engine since 4.whatever.

« Last Edit: March 15, 2007, 11:41:42 PM by OrangeCrate »

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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2007, 11:23:13 PM »
Platforms: Designed for Windows Vista™ 32-bit, XP, 2000 and Server 2003
davidr-does this help at all-this is all it said for system requirements
and the leaktest passed on both of mine too ;D

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Re: Replacement for ZA free?
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2007, 11:47:37 PM »
Sorry OrangeCrate,
I hate to disagree but IMHO, security programs of any type should always be as up-to-date as possible.
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