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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2007, 04:53:40 PM »
Long ago as an analyst programmer I had to use Unix, with none of the niceties of a graphical interface, that and working in DOS really puts me of having to tweak, work using command modes.

I look at it this way I don't have any requirement to use Linux, XP pro and the software I have suits my needs. When it doesn't then I will start to look to a replacement, by that time and we are talking years. Hopefully by that time the collective wit of these distros and OSS application programmers should be able to come up with an installation routine that is easy and to be able to install new applications without having to resort to command line tweaks.

If they can't then Linux will remain exactly where it is now and no threat to Windows and without competition M$ will continue to charge an arm and a leg for its products. There must be thousands who would consider a move away from M$ but not having a computer science degree (joking) they are a captive audience. They really have to look to the novice user as the future and plan their user interface accordingly.
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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 05:13:12 PM »
...They really have to look to the novice user as the future and plan their user interface accordingly.

You've made up your mind, and I'm certainly not going to try to change it. I comment on this only for other people who may read this thread...

On Ubuntu, the installation was all GUI. My day to day interaction with the OS is all GUI. The installation of new programs and updates is just point and click. It has menus, and all the things that you have learned and loved from Windows...

The only time I've used the terminal, is when I got myself into trouble on a couple of things, and I simply followed the instructions that some kind folks on the Ubuntu forums helped me out with. And then, it was just cut and paste the instructions that were provided to me into the terminal, and hit "enter".

Now granted, you can be a purist, and run everything from the terminal, but you certainly don't have to with modern day desktop Linux. I too came from DOS, so I'm not afraid of screwing things up using a terminal, but I'm at the age where if I learn something new, I have to forget something old.

I have no intention of using Linux in terminal mode. The GUI works great. As I've said many times on this forum, I don't care how the box works, as long as it works, and it does. Linux has been great.

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2007, 06:37:10 PM »
Hi,

Very interesting read (both the beginning link and all of the posts ;)). In my opinion in a few years Microsoft will begin to worry about Linux, thats really all I have to say about that.


@ Mac

Since OS X is based on Unix doesn't some of OS X need to be open source?

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2007, 09:08:03 PM »
Since OS X is based on Unix doesn't some of OS X need to be open source?

Yes...

http://www.apple.com/opensource/

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Oops, sorry to butt in Justin, I didn't notice the "@ Mac".
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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2007, 02:40:53 AM »
Both the PowerPC and Intel source code for darwin is freely available and can be downloaded at the address below

http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

all versions from 10.0.0 to 10.4.9 are available

also apple's developer tools (X Code) is also available on that page to download the source

The Safari Webkit source is avaliable along with lots more components at

http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html

Apple has always embraced open source from the beginning of Mac OS X. Linux/Unix users are not our enemy, Microsoft is!
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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2007, 03:42:58 AM »
Thanks for the page Orangecrate :)

Apple has always embraced open source from the beginning of Mac OS X. Linux/Unix users are not our enemy, Microsoft is!
I support that statement ;)

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2007, 10:42:03 AM »
Thanks for the page Orangecrate :)

Apple has always embraced open source from the beginning of Mac OS X. Linux/Unix users are not our enemy, Microsoft is!
I support that statement ;)

Agreed. But, what I like best about all this, is the free (as in beer)...   ;D
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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2007, 01:12:16 PM »
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Apple has always embraced open source from the beginning of Mac OS X. Linux/Unix users are not our enemy, Microsoft is!
I'm not in the habit of inviting my enemies into my house and Microsoft is certainly in my house.
Microsoft might at times be challenging but then so is Linux.
Unfortunately I've never been able to afford An apple so I can't comment on it.
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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2007, 01:59:32 PM »
I personally enjoy variety in my computing life. 

The easiest linux based OS that I've used is Mepis.  It is simply a pleasure to use. 

I also use Debian 'Sarge' , Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Knoppix.

A few of the problems that I have with the Linux based OS's is lack of hardware support.  More hardware developers need to make their drivers available for Linux.  I'm tired of hacked drivers...  I can't get my Wacom Graphire4 tablet to work on any distro that I've used.  It is frustrating.  Graphics card choices are pretty lame because of poor opengl implementation by the graphics card companies.

I am forced to use Windows XP for a pleasant gaming experience and graphics editing/processing with my tablet.

I really do love using Linux.  I like the idea that I always have that free alternative and those big repositories of open source software.  Linux based OS's are quite capable, but at the same time...  they can be very difficult for common users.  I've had to use the console many many many many times.  I don't mind, but many people do.

I don't like this whole Vista DRM thing.  I will stick with XP and Linux.

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2007, 02:55:03 PM »
...I like the idea that I always have that free alternative and those big repositories of open source software...

Here's a list of Linux equivalents, replacements, and analogs of Windows software. You'll notice that this list was last updated 4/12/06, so it's is a little outdated, but it keeps growing and keeps getting better all the time...

http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#43

Regarding repositories, I have a total of 20229 packages available as of this morning.

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2007, 10:11:34 PM »
Hey thanks a lot for that list.  I found some multi tracking programs I didn't know about. ;)

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Re: XP, Vista, OS X and Linux Comparisons
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2007, 10:14:55 PM »