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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2007, 04:47:20 AM »
Question for people that have used x86 chips for years:

first read this:
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Nehalem will provide another leap in processing power by assigning two computing threads to each core, resulting in 16 threads for an eight-core chip that could deliver speedy performance for certain parallel applications.

To me this sounds like Hyperthreading, am I correct?
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2007, 11:05:30 AM »
You are ... Hyperthreading is coming back  :)

Things are not looking well for AMD ... 

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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2007, 01:52:45 PM »
Dave?

Yes HAL.

Could we get one of those new Intel chips?

No HAL, let's wait and see what AMD comes up with. Then we'll talk about it.

O.K. Dave.

HAL?

Yes Dave.

Open the pod bay doors HAL.

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2007, 03:44:26 PM »
You are ... Hyperthreading is coming back  :)

Things are not looking well for AMD ... 

Things have been bad for AMD since intel dropped netburst :)
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2007, 08:33:03 PM »
Does AMD support SMP(Hyperthreading) in any of their chips?
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2007, 09:27:45 PM »
Does AMD support SMP(Hyperthreading) in any of their chips?

Yes, read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing#SMP_capable_operating_systems

...resulting in 16 threads for an eight-core chip that could deliver speedy performance for certain parallel applications.

Out of curiosity, what "consumer" applications would you think would benefit from this architecture?
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 01:22:16 AM »
And yet another story on the same subject:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=4748&tag=nl.e622
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 04:34:09 AM »
Does AMD support SMP(Hyperthreading) in any of their chips?

Yes, read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing#SMP_capable_operating_systems

...resulting in 16 threads for an eight-core chip that could deliver speedy performance for certain parallel applications.

Out of curiosity, what "consumer" applications would you think would benefit from this architecture?


Actually I meant does any AMD chip support Hyperthreading
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 11:05:12 AM »
Actually I meant does any AMD chip support Hyperthreading

Nope.

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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2007, 11:10:08 AM »

Out of curiosity, what "consumer" applications would you think would benefit from this architecture?


Mostly video and photo edditing applications but also some games are able to utilize 2 threads.

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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2007, 11:26:06 AM »
Actually I meant does any AMD chip support Hyperthreading

No. Though AMD holds a patent on hyperthread technology (*), they appear to be going in a different direction...

Read here:

http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsID=5828&pagtype=all

And here:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2006Apr/bch20060417035855.htm

That's why I made this comment earlier in this thread:

No HAL, let's wait and see what AMD comes up with. Then we'll talk about it.

I'm curious... Would you guys be kind enough to cite a couple of sources on the following comments?

...Things are not looking well for AMD ... 

Things have been bad for AMD since intel dropped netburst :)

Thanks.


Edit:

(*) AMD to do HyperThreading? (AMD's 1996 patent says it can--if it wants to)

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Dec/wbc20021218017832.htm
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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2007, 11:29:32 AM »

Out of curiosity, what "consumer" applications would you think would benefit from this architecture?


Mostly video and photo edditing applications but also some games are able to utilize 2 threads.

Thanks for the response.  :)

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Re: Intel promises fast Penryn in 2007
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2007, 08:29:23 PM »
Orangecrate my reference for my statement is AMD's stock price which has been on a downward slope for quite some time and the fact that Apple chose intel over AMD(most of what comes out of my mouth is based on Apple anyway ;))

Thanks for the links on AMD's patent
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