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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2021, 09:42:07 PM »
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.




 
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2021, 10:38:24 PM »
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2021, 12:33:23 AM »
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
Neither of them match the requirements.



On my pc, I don't have secure boot or the TPM module.
My laptop doesn't have TPM and the processor is incompatible.
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2021, 12:53:01 AM »
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
On my pc, I don't have secure boot or the TPM module.
My laptop doesn't have TPM and the processor is incompatible.


Whilst my CPU is meant to support it, I'm in no rush, if it isn't supported, I will just stick with windows 10 until I eventually replace this laptop and I had already started investigation. 

I kept XP Pro for many years after support ended because of the programs I had installed programs that simply wouldn't have worked on win10 and I had no intention of purchasing a slew of programs just to get win10.

For me this is little less of a problem and there is some way to go yet before support for win10 is withdrawn, yes it might be nice, but it certainly isn't what I would consider an immediate necessity.

Next step for me is to run the WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi check.
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2021, 01:07:30 AM »
Windows 10 support Will still happen till 2025.
I have one system that's ready to run 2011 once it's released.
That system is set up to receive the new version early since I'm a Windows Insider.
So far, no updates.
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2021, 03:23:04 AM »
Windows 10 support Will still happen till 2025.
I have one system that's ready to run 2011 once it's released.
That system is set up to receive the new version early since I'm a Windows Insider.
So far, no updates.

I have done some reading and some reports regular program updates to qualifying system not until the later part of 2021.

Which is fine for me as after downloading and running the windows 11 compatibility it is reporting my CPU isn't compatible.  So it looks like my plan to wait  until I eventually replace this laptop is my only option anyway.
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2021, 01:36:10 PM »
WhyNotWin11 is a better replacement for Windows 11's PC Health Check
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/whynotwin11-is-a-better-replacement-for-windows-11s-pc-health-check/

-> https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases

Thanks for that whilst the WhyNotWin11 tool indicates my CPU Compatibility has an ! exclamation mark, but all other checks are OK, including the one about the TMP version being TMP 2 detected (which to me would seem to be the main criteria/requirement, but seems not) and secure boot being enabled.
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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2021, 03:37:04 PM »

David,


This AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor is a bargain at $5399.99 plus you will save $100.00 if you bundle it with a compatible, eligible motherboard.


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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2021, 03:57:11 PM »

Ready for Windows 11? This will get you the answer.

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Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2021, 05:42:03 PM »
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is
Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe
Here is a screenshot of my result,
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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2021, 10:11:42 PM »

David,


This AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor is a bargain at $5399.99 plus you will save $100.00 if you bundle it with a compatible, eligible motherboard.


AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX Castle Peak 2.7GHz 64-Core sWRX8 Boxed Processor - Micro Center

So you think $5399.99 is cheap, you did notice I'm running a laptop, I could buy 3 new compatible laptop systems for this price :P
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2021, 10:23:59 PM »
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2021, 10:44:31 PM »
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe

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