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Re: Interesting
« Reply #225 on: June 23, 2008, 11:29:48 PM »
A large number of UK ISP has a limit included in the package, some as low as 3GB some 5GB. There are however, some that purport to be unlimited, and some of those then pop-up the unreasonable use clause (what is unreasonable about using the supposed unlimited download they advertised) to ditch high bandwidth users.

The UK has only recently started offering broadband mobile where the user has a USB dongle to connect, most of these also start at a 3GB limit with an arm and a leg required should you go over that limit.
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« Reply #226 on: June 25, 2008, 12:32:42 AM »
Fill your car for $1.10 a gallon?

Hopefully I'll still be alive when this actually happens. :)
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #227 on: June 25, 2008, 12:37:00 AM »
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« Reply #228 on: June 26, 2008, 01:59:53 AM »
How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?
All of this just for a security update....... :o
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #229 on: June 26, 2008, 08:11:22 PM »
How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?
All of this just for a security update....... :o
No Different than a program having Google or Yahoo toolbar checked by default ::)
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« Reply #230 on: June 26, 2008, 08:42:21 PM »
You're joking right, a bit different a toolbar (measured probably in KBs) to one or two full blown applications measured in the tens of MBs almost 95MB.
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #231 on: June 26, 2008, 09:35:04 PM »
You're joking right, a bit different a toolbar (measured probably in KBs) to one or two full blown applications measured in the tens of MBs almost 95MB.
Same idea. Wether its a tool bar, or a Full application such as Safari or Microsoft Silverlight.  Lots of companies use this tactic. Microsoft, Adobe, Sun, Google, etc. Apple is just joining the host of other companies already doing it.

We may not particularly like the way these companies do it, but its not hard to uncheck the box.
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« Reply #232 on: June 26, 2008, 10:13:40 PM »
I must admit i am inclined to agree its not hard to uncheck a box, but then again for some it can be, most people won't know if they need it or not, or even how to use the programs properly.

But mac is right in saying alot of companies do it, we use norton anti-virus at work (yuck), and when i was renewing the subscription it turned out updating to version 2008 was cheaper so i went ahead, low and behold the next screen confirmed my purchase, i had to click NO to confirm it......
If i had done what most people had done and clicked yes (because lack of reading) it would of installed norton internet security at a bigger price....

So, apple is only playing alone, someone just put them in the spotlight recently.

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Re: Interesting
« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2008, 12:31:44 AM »
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We may not particularly like the way these companies do it, but its not hard to uncheck the box.
Tagging something as a security update and throwing in the kitchen sink isn't
exactly looking out for the consumer. It's big business at its worst.... IMHO
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« Reply #234 on: June 27, 2008, 06:39:44 AM »
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We may not particularly like the way these companies do it, but its not hard to uncheck the box.
Tagging something as a security update and throwing in the kitchen sink isn't
exactly looking out for the consumer. It's big business at its worst.... IMHO
If you look Apple is not tagging it as a security update. Its Clearly marked New Software.




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« Reply #235 on: June 28, 2008, 03:09:27 AM »
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We may not particularly like the way these companies do it, but its not hard to uncheck the box.
Tagging something as a security update and throwing in the kitchen sink isn't
exactly looking out for the consumer. It's big business at its worst.... IMHO
If you look Apple is not tagging it as a security update. Its Clearly marked New Software.






This is the Applke Software Update Module.
What does NEW software have in common with an update of something you already have installed
on your system ???

Why not leave the items unchecked by default and give me the opportunity to check them if
I should want to also install the other products ???
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« Reply #236 on: June 28, 2008, 03:17:44 AM »
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This is the Applke Software Update Module.
What does NEW software have in common with an update of something you already have installed
on your system

Why not leave the items unchecked by default and give me the opportunity to check them if
I should want to also install the other products


You said Apple was tagging them as Security Updates, I posted the photo to prove that they are labeling them as new software and not updates.

As to why they are checking them by default? I don't Know, Why does Microsoft, Google, Adobe, Etc? Most likely they are thinking  some users will not notice, and then try the software and use it. Much like Adobe/MS/Google Etc.

Dirty Move? Yes. Is apple the First or the Only one Doing it? No.
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« Reply #237 on: June 28, 2008, 03:22:42 AM »
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Dirty Move? Yes. Is apple the First or the Only one Doing it? No.
Fully agree with you Mac. 
It's dirty pool no matter which Company plays these tricks on their customers.
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #238 on: July 04, 2008, 03:18:34 AM »
The next time you receive some spam and have a little time on your hands,
try what this person did....
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #239 on: July 04, 2008, 09:56:37 AM »
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What Apple is doing is no different than Windows Update ... with one exception. Windows checks nothing and asks you to check what you want. Apple checks all and asks you to uncheck what you do not want.

How hard is either to do? Not hard at all as both are the exact reverse of each other. In both cases, it is not at a all hard to read, decide what you want or do not want, and make your choices. Why is it that no one complains that Windows Update makes you check what you want instead of doing it for your lazy butts? (By the way, please do not take that personally as it is not meant to be.)

I do not own nor use any Apple products but I feel it is unfair to accuse Apple of doing wrong when it is doing practically the same as too many other companies.


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