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Re: Interesting
« Reply #390 on: January 08, 2009, 03:52:46 AM »
I just received the following offer:
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Today's Hot Deals Daily Summary:

  + Apple MacBook Pro 17" Notebook Pre-Order ($2799+

I have 2 questions:

1. Is this really a bargain ???

Last year I purchase a Dell 17" Notebook but it came with Vista and the cost was $799.00

2. Is a MacBook Pro really worth an additional $2000.00 ???
Im betting your dell's hardware specs don't come close to whats in the MacBookPro. For example the LED panel in the MacBookPro is meant for Graphics professionals, it displays far more colors accurately than your average TN panel LCD thats in your Dell (although Dell does offer the option to upgrade your display when you are ordering). I would bet that just the screen of the MacBookPro costs over half of what you paid for that dell. I know that the processor that Apple is using costs almost half as much as your dell (the P9600 costs $348 in 1,000 unit quantities.) Does your Dell have integrated graphics or a discrete graphics processor?

You can not compare a budget laptop built on older chip technology to one thats built using the latest top of the line chips. Wither its a Mac or a PC.

EDIT: Just to compare I went to dells website and looked at their Studio 17 laptop. They dont even offer a processor option as high as whats in the MacBook Pro. The only graphics option is a 256MB Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with no way to increase the graphics memory. The Max amount of memory is 4GB, where the MacBookPro can hold 8GB. No Option for firewire 800 (does it have firewire at all?)

In Short its the hardware that makes the MacBookPro cost more, if you found a PC laptop (im sure they are out there) with specs clost to what Apple offers the price tag would be just as high.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2009, 04:16:02 AM by .: Mac :. »
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #391 on: January 08, 2009, 05:32:22 AM »
Well Bob it's a wonderful thing to have your own personal windmill. Everyone would like one i'm sure and they make great dinner time conversation pieces. Cheers Auslan.
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« Reply #392 on: January 08, 2009, 03:36:12 PM »
Whilst higher specs do cost more, but for it to be 3.5 times more expensive simply can't be justified. 32bit versions of Windows don't support more than 4GB and can virtually can't use over 3GB, so having the ability to have 8GB of RAM (not physically installed that would be extra), is of little use unless using a 64bit version of windows.

As far as a laptop goes, just how powerful a graphics (option, options, options, again, they cost extra on top of whatever the default) card or chip do you really need to support the 17" screen, it entirely depends on what you intend to use it for, or any such options are meaningless and cash wasted.

Firewire 800 is no deal breaker if you have firewire 400 or even USB2 if you don't have hardware hooked up that requires it, making a copy to external HDD, etc. that little bit quicker, is it worth the extra, just have a leisurely cup of coffee. I have an external HDD that supports eSATA and USB2 I had hoped to get the eSATA working as it is much faster, but even with a eSATA PCI-e card it won't work so USB2 only, but that really isn't any huge hassle when I do my backups to the external HDD. I have Firewire 400 on my PC but the external HDD doesn't support that so in my case firewire 800 would be as much use, none.

Bearing in mind this was sent to Bob as a so called Hot Deal, Pre-Order special, etc. etc. so I shudder to think what it would cost outside of this Hot Deal. I just can't see how this kind of price differential can justified, as this credit crunch bites harder the gap will have to close.
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #393 on: January 09, 2009, 01:28:21 AM »
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I just can't see how this kind of price differential can justified, as this credit crunch bites harder the gap will have to close.
I'm still waiting to run their operating system on a dual boot. The tighter this crunch becomes, the greater my chances become.  ;D
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« Reply #394 on: January 09, 2009, 04:23:24 AM »
Whilst higher specs do cost more, but for it to be 3.5 times more expensive simply can't be justified. 32bit versions of Windows don't support more than 4GB and can virtually can't use over 3GB, so having the ability to have 8GB of RAM (not physically installed that would be extra), is of little use unless using a 64bit version of windows.

As far as a laptop goes, just how powerful a graphics (option, options, options, again, they cost extra on top of whatever the default) card or chip do you really need to support the 17" screen, it entirely depends on what you intend to use it for, or any such options are meaningless and cash wasted.

Firewire 800 is no deal breaker if you have firewire 400 or even USB2 if you don't have hardware hooked up that requires it, making a copy to external HDD, etc. that little bit quicker, is it worth the extra, just have a leisurely cup of coffee. I have an external HDD that supports eSATA and USB2 I had hoped to get the eSATA working as it is much faster, but even with a eSATA PCI-e card it won't work so USB2 only, but that really isn't any huge hassle when I do my backups to the external HDD. I have Firewire 400 on my PC but the external HDD doesn't support that so in my case firewire 800 would be as much use, none.

Bearing in mind this was sent to Bob as a so called Hot Deal, Pre-Order special, etc. etc. so I shudder to think what it would cost outside of this Hot Deal. I just can't see how this kind of price differential can justified, as this credit crunch bites harder the gap will have to close.

First David please remember that this is designed for graphics professionals not consumers, hence the high end graphics and display. Also while you do need a 64 bit version of windows to use more than 4GB of Memory you dont need to on the mac (it already supports more than 4GB).

Firewire 800 is Extremely important on this laptop as its for graphics professionals. Hi-Def Digital camera use firewire (most serious video cameras do) This laptop was never designed for most people to buy (thats why they make the $1000 macbook)

EDIT: Also look at the Mac Pro. Its is way more expensive than most people would ever pay for. It uses intel's Xeon processors so you know its considered a workstation class machine.

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Bearing in mind this was sent to Bob as a so called Hot Deal, Pre-Order special, etc. etc. so I shudder to think what it would cost outside of this Hot Deal. I just can't see how this kind of price differential can justified, as this credit crunch bites harder the gap will have to close.

$2799 is the retail price of the laptop, its not some special deal price. Apple does not run special deals except for Black Friday (Unless you are a Student or government employee).
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Re: Interesting
« Reply #396 on: January 17, 2009, 01:02:07 AM »
YoKenny,
I don't know if you or any one else has noticed but the prices are starting to climb again......

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« Reply #397 on: January 28, 2009, 01:40:44 PM »
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« Reply #399 on: January 31, 2009, 08:27:58 PM »
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