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« Reply #1080 on: August 12, 2010, 10:52:52 PM »
Indeed.  I wish I knew more myself.  They really don't teach you natural ways to heal yourself in America.  They will definitely tell you what pill to take.  I remember getting burned really bad on a grill when I was a kid.  Took some pills from the doctor.  Everything is synthetic :(.  I'm taking some botany courses at UNI next year.  Maybe they will bestow the knowledge of the earth on me.  All I really know how to do is start a fire now and filter water haha.  At least that's something!

Synthetic is based on natural. I recall having read a couple of times about pharmaceutical companies going to the Amazon forest to get patents on plants that are old healing remedies, in order to develop new commercial medicine.
All they do with a lot of synthetics is analyze the chemical makeup of what's found in nature and then duplicate it in a lab. Like the way the replicator worked in Star Trek, Next Generation. They just had to have a reserve of each chemical element and then they could synthetically create anything they wanted and it would be exactly the same as the original. I'm not saying we are at that point yet but it's basically the same process.

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« Reply #1081 on: August 12, 2010, 11:26:15 PM »
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« Reply #1082 on: August 13, 2010, 01:39:21 AM »
Indeed the affects of attempting to mimic natural chemical compounds always has unforeseen consequences.  It is quite disconcerting in using medicine.  I agree Polonous we depend on other people's inventions as opposed to our own abilities to derive the same information from our surroundings.  We rely to much on everybody but ourselves.  I also totally agree with a necessary balance between the two.  We weigh business need and efficiency over our own personal well-being as a whole a majority of the time.

The whole medicine deal... if they are mimicking natural occurring things to produce synthetic medicine.  Why not just provide the natural occurring chemical? ...Oh wait nobody profits off that.  Your body can process a naturally occurring substance much more accurately than a synthetic substance made to mimic it more often than not.  It's kind of like all of the preservatives and hormone enriched food that we eat in USA causes issues.  Especially with the development process of the body, as you said.  It not only affects us but the livestock that we consume.  None of the livestock we eat can naturally reproduce anymore.  It all has to be done by machine... sadly.

We may see it as a benefit because it can be processed on a very large scale to feed millions of people.  However it negatively affects both sides, the consumer and the consumed.  As smart and convenient as we claim all of this is.  It has only been around for a very short period of time compared to Earth in the form we know it.  We base everything on very short tests and profitability (in USA).  We have genetically altered ourselves, the mammals we consume and a lot of the produce we consume as well.  All in the name of chemicals and convenience.  Most people don't even ask questions about it they just consume and keep doing it.  A huge majority don't know how to grow their own food, go buy it at the grocery store.  A huge majority couldn't raise a farm, go buy meat at the grocery store.  I'm not saying I could, it's just kind of strange in my eyes.  I'm making steps to process everything myself ... even water.  I live near a creek and have invested in a decent sized hand-cranked water filter.  Call it crazy I just want to be more in touch with nature... as I type on a computer :).  It's all about the balance.  I'm trying to learn stuff like you posted original Polonus about plants you can use to heal yourself.  I think it's all very interesting... technology and nature.  Everything is wonderful in moderation!

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« Reply #1083 on: August 18, 2010, 04:03:05 PM »
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« Reply #1084 on: August 18, 2010, 04:08:54 PM »
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Here's a sample created by a very talented artist: :)


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« Reply #1085 on: August 19, 2010, 12:13:27 AM »

The whole medicine deal... if they are mimicking natural occurring things to produce synthetic medicine.  Why not just provide the natural occurring chemical? ...Oh wait nobody profits off that.  Your body can process a naturally occurring substance much more accurately than a synthetic substance made to mimic it more often than not.  It's kind of like all of the preservatives and hormone enriched food that we eat in USA causes issues.  Especially with the development process of the body, as you said.  It not only affects us but the livestock that we consume.  None of the livestock we eat can naturally reproduce anymore.  It all has to be done by machine... sadly.
Many of the naturally occurring beneficial substances are present in very low concentrations and would have little if any effect if used in the natural form. Extracting the substances from the plants and concentrating them to an effective dosage level would be very costly, time consuming, and not eco-friendly. Many times, producing the compound synthetically makes more sense in every aspect. Take aspirin as an example.
 
I also don't think it's gotten to the point where livestock can't reproduce naturally. It just isn't left up to their whims and urges so insemination is done artificially to step up production levels. It doesn't have to be done by machine, it's just more efficient that way. There's also the fact that with beef cattle, very few of the male animals remain unneutered and there is only a small pool that is used for breeding purposes.

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« Reply #1087 on: August 23, 2010, 01:40:15 PM »
Odd But True!

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« Reply #1088 on: August 24, 2010, 03:30:22 AM »
The Meadow Lake Parks Area Assn had it's 1st Open House on 08-21-2010
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« Reply #1089 on: August 24, 2010, 05:49:55 AM »
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« Reply #1090 on: August 25, 2010, 05:24:44 PM »

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I'll never look at a pencil as just a pencil again.
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« Reply #1091 on: August 25, 2010, 06:22:06 PM »
lol pencil art

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« Reply #1092 on: August 25, 2010, 07:59:00 PM »
Wow, that is intricate, Whilst there are many that are excellent works of miniature art, I thing image 7 is the most intricate (if not the most artistic) having even engraved what appears to be the date and other wording on the lead pieces.
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« Reply #1093 on: August 25, 2010, 08:00:06 PM »

I'll never look at a pencil as just a pencil again.
You have way too much time on your hands. ;)

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« Reply #1094 on: August 26, 2010, 03:18:10 PM »
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